Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?

["Dustin C. Hatch" <admiralnemo@gmail.com>]

On 11/2/2013 07:04, hasufell wrote:
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> Another round of questioning the users here.
These are good, thank you. Short answer here is no.

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> more specifically:
> * how often do you experience useless rebuilds?
At least one of my machines is constantly wanting to rebuild some 
package or another. Currently, one of my desktops wants to rebuild 
x11-misc/compton with every emerge.

> * do you really have a problem with running
> revdep-rebuild/haskell-updater/perl-cleaner etc after every emerge?
No, because I typically understand when they're needed and can predict 
when I should use them, which really isn't all that often.

> * do you think it's worth the effort to add more stuff to the PM, so
> that you don't have to run revdep-rebuild that often?
I think we should have stopped at @preserved-rebuild. It's a sort of 
middle ground between rebuilding things all the time and having a broken 
system. I like it because it allows me to leave some things in a 
semi-broken state until I have time and CPU cycles to dedicate to 
rebuild them (i.e. libreoffice, etc.).

> * do you trust the other methods like subslots or preserved-rebuild to
> work reliably? (as in: do you still use revdep-rebuild?)
I've been using preserved-rebuild ever since it was backported to 2.1, 
and I don't think I've needed revdep-rebuild since then. I run it 
occasionally, but it's never found anything.

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> If you want my opinion on subslots:
> # grep EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS /etc/portage/make.conf
> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y"
I'm getting closer to this sentiment as well; I'm beginning to think 
they're more trouble than they're worth. I'm getting tired of seeing an 
emerge list of 10 or 15 rebuilds when I'm trying to install something 
brand new because some package in the tree I already have installed has 
changed. If I cared about that package and its dependencies, I would 
have asked for it to be rebuilt/upgraded/whatever, but I don't, I'm 
working on something else right now.

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