From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C0A138783 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC7F3E09B8; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABD01E094E for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id f4so1112292wiw.10 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tG9ZT4nGKa+oxNIjZxoj8oHHSBpMhgJ84505Fb8g25Y=; b=roD4Nnb348das6kEAHhG1k41yVivY6opc+CnDRMeOCLHn88Km9/Arh69rVUo/sBhoe s7skwVqUzYpP0odda9iVkHbKWQI0WsGMHJQ3ZD+wHO9JnXJ/Nn3E8rUC4m8AgYY5Rxhc PkTnEumQVbzcvDePK3xz+uqEifqNoby5vj/dNPS0OFBQZ42UQ5c9uC/wzhdT1rYACL+X h4sGhJkramhB5qKev1H9iWly6/Zp+8oeAw7iHFjNRJZxwkhgtzuC6uNUJvcMmb63LLmC 2ZHk47D3eLGKXVlKnv0CNUS3RWLzyqCeyRC4rmXAy7L9cwbPdUZLrEVD/vK7/gua56H6 apMA== X-Received: by 10.180.83.194 with SMTP id s2mr2461924wiy.60.1383314482320; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-210-126-109.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.126.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d11sm6734246wic.4.2013.11.01.07.01.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5273B423.9030705@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:01:07 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience? References: <5267CB83.3000306@gentoo.org> <526C8B62.9040905@iinet.net.au> <8761scg9ao.fsf@nyu.edu> <87bo249r32.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87bo249r32.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: aeaf9528-0b73-49fe-a837-44fd93fae2c1 X-Archives-Hash: 5cbe0dda71ee64be4fd67a74cde1d595 On 01/11/2013 15:41, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31 2013, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >>> Making things "just work" is complex when trying to juggle 6 or more >>> supported versions/implementations of python. >> >> Indeed. >> >>> We have tried to explain the magic make.conf lines in the Python user guide. >>> >>> https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python/python-r1/user-guide.xml >>> >>> We also try to make sure that most users never have to touch >>> PYTHON_TARGETS, etc; the default values provided by your profile are >>> set up to allow *stable* python2.7 and python3.2 to work properly. >> >>> ~arch users are expected to read the docs. ^_^ >> >> I am a ~amd64 user and I just read the user-guide. :-) >> I do not see any action items for my system; but do see a large number >> of reinstalls proposed by emerge >> >> I do not change any python variables in make.conf so emerge --info shows >> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" >> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2" >> >> a recursive grep -i for python in /etc/portage yields only >> ./package.use/imaging-pillow:5:virtual/python-imaging -python_targets_python3_2 >> >> So I basically have the default except for the imaging/pillow business. >> >> I note that update world wants to rebuild a bunch of packages (the >> entire output is below). Some are qt-related others involve >> PYTHON_TARGETS. >> >> Does this mean that I can let the 44 packages / 38 reinstalls update occur >> and expect a running system to result? It is unusual, but I realize not >> unprecedented, to have so many reinstalls and I would like to confirm >> that this is expected. >> >> thanks, >> allan > > I realize that I forgot to attach the list of packages emerge wants to > reinstall. So I did the same emerge command (I always use --ask) and > they are *gone*. This I don't understand since I didn't sync inbetween > (ls -lt /usr/portage shows nothing since wednesday). > > I though all dependencies, etc are resolved locally so why would it > change from 44 packages with 38 reinstalls to 4 packages with no > reinstalls? Did you make any changes to make.conf between your previous mail and doing this last test? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com