From: William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience?
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:41:22 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <526C8B62.9040905@iinet.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0EP42cUvjZqXtzhRJpeR410QGKJ=8kV+em5=NGwLRhty3JUA@mail.gmail.com>
On 27/10/13 09:30, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:13 AM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Since I maintain blender I have come across quite a few frustrated
>> users already: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488976#c7
>>
>> I am not sure myself. On one hand we don't need python-updater anymore
>> and have very tight dependencies that ensure that all needed modules
>> are always available for the desired implementation.
>>
>> On the other hand it seems to give a lot of users trouble with
>> blockers, general configuration and mass-updates on things like
>> removing python:2.5.
>>
>> What are your opinions? Did it improve user experience? What could be
>> improved?
>
...
The python user experience is less than overwhelming for a user.
1. if python-update is no longer needed (first I have heard of this) why
is it still rebuilding many packages after an upgrade ...
2. I have python 2.7 installed and python 3.x is being asked to be
installed ... isnt that enough? - shorely it can work out what it needs
from whats been asked for/removed and whats already on the system ...
instead we need to add these cryptic, poorly explained lines that one
only finds out from emails etc. The elog message for the one exception
asks that the line be added to make.conf without telling the user what
happens if he upgrades later (as it lists specific versions) or makes
changes - does that line have any effect, especially if he makes a
mistake (which I did and I am not sure what it did in the background)?
4. sorry if the above sounds over the top but some of the changes did go
wrong for me ... as is the grub2 upgrade I am still trying to get to
work after many hours ...
5. and I am really really impressed that a dev has actually asked the
users ... unlike other decisions being made!
BillK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-27 3:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-23 13:13 [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience? hasufell
2013-10-27 1:30 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-10-27 2:18 ` Walter Dnes
2013-10-27 2:22 ` Bruce Hill
2013-10-27 2:48 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-10-27 3:41 ` William Kenworthy [this message]
2013-10-27 19:53 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-11-01 2:11 ` gottlieb
2013-11-01 13:41 ` gottlieb
2013-11-01 14:01 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-11-01 15:43 ` gottlieb
2013-11-01 20:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-11-01 21:56 ` gottlieb
2013-11-02 1:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-11-01 20:30 ` Bruce Hill
2013-10-27 12:03 ` hasufell
2013-10-27 19:43 ` Mike Gilbert
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