From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111921381F3 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 492A6E0D1B; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DDE1E0CD2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.168.57.17] (85-76-34-123-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.34.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1FB333F02D for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5264D8F6.5030303@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:34:14 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager? References: <52629F15.1050803@sporkbox.us> <5263174E.8000004@googlemail.com> <5263795D.2070503@sporkbox.us> <5263884A.7070303@gentoo.org> <5263A146.8070006@sporkbox.us> <5263A8A4.9050208@gentoo.org> <5263B4D8.8070801@sporkbox.us> <5263D481.5020403@gentoo.org> <5263E234.4020305@libertytrek.org> <5263E2C7.2020704@gentoo.org> <20131021023444.GA24456@waltdnes.org> <5264BC1A.5020701@sporkbox.us> In-Reply-To: <5264BC1A.5020701@sporkbox.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1cf24fb4-8ef7-4929-865a-1521cd9ce119 X-Archives-Hash: 9abfc38e20e0995fe13d0cd24c5b9500 On 21/10/13 08:31, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 09:34 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote >> >>> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but >>> from top of my head: >>> We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offending code. >>> >>> As in, that's nothing to be worried about before it happens. >> That's not always possible, e.g. GNOME 3.8. >> > I think that's an exception to the rule. I mean, upstream deliberately > chose to depend on systemd/logind and whatnot. In such a situation > there's literally no way to fix it without a fork, and I doubt Gentoo as > an organization is interested in that. > well said