From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:33:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5264D8DC.9030204@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131021023444.GA24456@waltdnes.org>
On 21/10/13 05:34, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote
>
>> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but
>> from top of my head:
>> We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offending code.
>>
>> As in, that's nothing to be worried about before it happens.
> That's not always possible, e.g. GNOME 3.8.
>
Yes, but it was Gentoo Gnome Teams decision to keep packaging Gnome
after they (I mean, GNOME upstream) introduced systemd hard dependency
instead of switching to eg. MATE, or helping out with Xfce, etc, and
sticking to the distribution default (OpenRC)
And then it's yours (I mean, users) decision to keep on using Gnome
despite of it
As we were talking about core, like kernel and part of the userland boot
process, I'm just trying to say that Gnome is not important part of the
core system, it's just one of the desktops among others, despite of it's
past (and current) popularity
Now I have to admit I'm biased, I used to use GNOME 2.x in past but I've
been with Xfce for years now, so I can only imagine what hardcore GNOME
users think of all this,
if the same thing happened to Xfce, I'd very very much pissed off -- to
a point I'd rip out whole systemd support out of the code and package it
with limited functionality
rather than introducing systemd harddep
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-21 7:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-18 4:27 [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager? Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-19 15:02 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-19 23:35 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-20 6:34 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-20 7:37 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-10-20 9:24 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-20 9:55 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-10-20 10:47 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-20 13:02 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-10-20 14:01 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-20 14:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-10-21 2:34 ` Walter Dnes
2013-10-21 5:31 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-21 7:34 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-10-21 7:33 ` Samuli Suominen [this message]
2013-10-20 14:05 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-10-23 22:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-10-24 3:48 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-20 9:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-20 10:52 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-20 11:02 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-20 11:18 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-21 20:33 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-22 8:43 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-20 14:42 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-21 1:14 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-21 9:55 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-21 10:11 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-21 10:27 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-21 10:48 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-21 10:59 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-21 11:10 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-21 11:53 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-21 20:34 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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