From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023971381F3 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 05:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B2C7E0B70; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 05:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mahal.bihira.com (mahal.bihira.com [67.159.5.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20664E0B5F for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 05:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 54.70-40-233.netnet.net ([70.40.233.54]:33037 helo=[192.168.1.144]) by mahal.bihira.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VY85F-0004TR-I3 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 05:31:30 +0000 Message-ID: <5264BC1A.5020701@sporkbox.us> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:31:06 -0500 From: Daniel Campbell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130921 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager? References: <52629F15.1050803@sporkbox.us> <5263174E.8000004@googlemail.com> <5263795D.2070503@sporkbox.us> <5263884A.7070303@gentoo.org> <5263A146.8070006@sporkbox.us> <5263A8A4.9050208@gentoo.org> <5263B4D8.8070801@sporkbox.us> <5263D481.5020403@gentoo.org> <5263E234.4020305@libertytrek.org> <5263E2C7.2020704@gentoo.org> <20131021023444.GA24456@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20131021023444.GA24456@waltdnes.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mahal.bihira.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sporkbox.us X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: mahal.bihira.com: authenticated_id: lists@sporkbox.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Archives-Salt: 220a4de3-9d12-4c6a-a975-9b0ab1f450c1 X-Archives-Hash: 6218a017c824792c79018cb36ad54f5b On 10/20/2013 09:34 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > >> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but >> from top of my head: >> We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offending code. >> >> As in, that's nothing to be worried about before it happens. > > That's not always possible, e.g. GNOME 3.8. > I think that's an exception to the rule. I mean, upstream deliberately chose to depend on systemd/logind and whatnot. In such a situation there's literally no way to fix it without a fork, and I doubt Gentoo as an organization is interested in that.