From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76B1381F3 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B07EEE0CA5; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB51E0C94 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B7328405B for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 07:42:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=jBpClKoAvdB2jyk4G3NyXlgf9Y8=; b=ntUUn/fZ/mBO J4ptQCQzLtOA3CcCAikPqy7gNTEAe2mOovIH0bXK9s7LZIRFYayZOTn7AA9lg1zp 4hLfM8KF6cxaLQ/1FWy3hUcgV+6xMWiD7JRRg7nDBmOzGQg//NMfwIqK+gC08ySe gZlLMJXKXTjqbyPOKpjkkK8ScGQYulg= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5D2F284058 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5263EBD8.2010400@libertytrek.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:42:32 -0400 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager? References: <52629F15.1050803@sporkbox.us> <5263174E.8000004@googlemail.com> <5263795D.2070503@sporkbox.us> <5263A157.4070001@googlemail.com> <5263B5F3.9020604@sporkbox.us> In-Reply-To: <5263B5F3.9020604@sporkbox.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7c89050a-f5e3-469c-9453-154376303901 X-Archives-Hash: f3c1f620c53ad70093b30e8ab1059f06 On 2013-10-20 6:52 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > So they spend a lot of money hiring developers. The more important > question is what is their agenda? What do they tell those developers to > *make*? You don't hire people without a business plan in mind. Well, once I understood their (Redhat's) motivation, which was/is enterprise/cloud/vm oriented (which is why they were so concerned about parallelism for startup, etc) - I dropped the conspiracy theory aspect of it all... it actually does make sense in that context. And as long as Linus is at the helm of kernel development, I'm not too worried about the systemd guys doing too much damage there - I just can't see him letting it happen. If I were the type to worry just for the sake of worrying, I'd be wondering what may happen down the road, if Linus were to suddenly lose interest in kernel development (for whatever reason) and walk away from it - who/what would take over the reins? But that would be pointless...