From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A40C1381F3 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 100D1E0919; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postler.lichtfels.com (postler.lichtfels.com [78.46.92.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE85E0898 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9AD123FD for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:13:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=xunil.at; s=mailout; t=1381238015; bh=GEuiGeihd+nB+nS4M3x8pvPp88XctL4OOD2UagP9qGU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=xk1/9JBmeqF3AOHr+zHsGo4mw8xY80CD4gS/k58LuZUSMc8eQqacGCgwVp2lnAsVA 4AaRtuoauRGHgNDMDpUklMlvdmGHM37/YlJURaJjP4uCRBJNEe27yribudMwdvNbD5 U8GDL5VNPsTsjM0TSK2Iz+2ZQwmNxhSv5aRVV4NQ= Received: from postler.lichtfels.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postler.lichtfels.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 02341-05 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:13:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hiro.oops.intern (unknown [IPv6:2001:15c0:65ff:8742:6d5f:52c:c3e1:7182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5069B123E9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:13:32 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=xunil.at; s=mailout; t=1381238013; bh=GEuiGeihd+nB+nS4M3x8pvPp88XctL4OOD2UagP9qGU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=n/1hBiseaqnbL27VG7AYvn+W2qWJfLslZbGGN+je7SWkMMTFnANqq5e10KZ4mC68D ZJuL664OfBbCR6xfvwXIcpOkguO2d2smTEIjQl4B9A3Yuh93dNA1ZxJXjl85+mV7yK DE6do/7vhS95lwv+zquTJHnfOkD0aMgL/IL42J/I= Message-ID: <525404FB.70304@xunil.at> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:13:31 +0200 From: "Stefan G. Weichinger" Organization: oops! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages References: <1380270284.4038.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <52454B37.2050202@gmail.com> <1380274123.4038.1@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <20130927104321.GC3105@TranscendTheRubicon.fritz.box> <20130927111808.GA875@ca.inter.net> <52460528.30303@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52460528.30303@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2c X-Archives-Salt: f0eedc06-8dfb-42a6-97ac-8a525c7a1fca X-Archives-Hash: 1cea472a166b5606c9087aa17e77246b Am 28.09.2013 00:22, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > This only works right if the ebuild maintainer is on the ball, watches > Changelogs for the DEPENDS packages and put the proper metadata in the > ebuild. You can imagine how this can work out very very well when done > right, and if the maintainer makes a mistake (or doesn't clearly > understand how it works) it can cause many unneccessary rebuilds (but > not actually *break* stuff). Huge packages like LO with many > interconnected DEPENDS are always going to be the usual victim I'm afraid... > > And then there's things that use poppler, boost, PyQT and pykde4 - a > similar effect is at work. > > End result = your cpus will be kept nice and toasty warm doing lots of > compiles but actual breakage of the sort that led to revdep-rebuild > being developed should reduce dramatically. Some unneccessary rebuilds > are the price we pay for not having breakage. > > In Helmut's specific case here, the cause seems to be python-exec. I > missed that one myself somehow so had no idea it was hanging around > biting folks. For the last few days my desktop machine always wants to rebuild tons of stuff like LibreOffice and PyQt4 etc ... And it doesn't get to an end ... right now I say "emerge -1 gcc" and it starts to emerge 13 packages ... with LO rebuilt several times afaik. What to do about this situation? Thanks, Stefan