From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8111381F3 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 973FAE0AC6; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-f174.google.com (mail-ea0-f174.google.com [209.85.215.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BAE5E0A53 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f174.google.com with SMTP id z15so1076626ead.5 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 06:02:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L196+sVZhXrkibrXvN2dGjIELHKdfn5wKI4fd5HrjIU=; b=MW7ueHmVbDNrz6X2YvogorteutS8RoW2Ys3veuSTJlzKL2e2JCQ88Bf/0kMDiOlUph sKBUxNkyZfQd8t+oDXUSGuJcKH0hN8bNuesp46+xSOrzj2JvdrGxevzMK8fb62IvsK2u 9j3t679C9S3p5p1TsXJ1Sf+Xhcx14tv74LZfr0Z4kv4vtpfBkhQLOEv73qew3YVjI6tE T8tFOZM4WZvJTjGSXLRms6UpQMufEiK+Abro0yUD2cWqDj1vpqqYmWiT9oKtfS/CH5VW e3jt2l7thGZKnA+dn5VB9Kxluz5Z30zBqtGgxvIPmY93opUlo3v/4JnBT91EHGRVdmjy Pb0g== X-Received: by 10.15.10.5 with SMTP id f5mr425882eet.87.1380805337990; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 06:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-210-102-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a43sm15553658eep.9.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Oct 2013 06:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <524D69C2.20408@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:57:38 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al References: <20131002050424.GC10604@server> <20131002144435.GA29364@linux1> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e0079671-772d-4738-95c7-e231f31cc101 X-Archives-Hash: 5a0c804e4df805ed1aff5a50588d1b08 On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: > William Hubbs gentoo.org> writes: > > >> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: >>> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: >>> >>> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html > >> Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other >> members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well. > > I'm not too sure about the kernel sources: > "is provided by Gandi and cannot be modified" That's a GPL violation right there. The developer absolutely totally cannot do that. He/she may refuse to provide support if the kernel image is not what is shipped, but by using Linux they have already bound themselves to an agreement that the sources must be provided and be modifiable. And, they have to host the sources on their own network or provide them on demand > > My experiences with embedded *nix is that the kernel sources > are tinkered with, almost constantly to infinity...... > > You'd be wise to post to the gentoo-embedded group, where > those learking in the shadows (memory crevaces) have > lots of experiences with a multitude of embedded ventures. > > Most embedded ventures end up on the waste heap; they made > critical decision that leave the effort..........borked. > I'd research into the coding+user community, as being > naked and alone on an embedded vetnure, does give rise to > abandonment. > > Another consideration is the processor architecture(s) that > the codebase runs on. Most embedded and high end processor > efforts are looking at LOW POWER architectures, as the thrust > of all future efforts. This means on ARM or ARM+x86 or such. > > > That said, the project does look attractive. > > caveat emptor. > hth, > James > > > > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com