From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED6D1381F3 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46023E0B81; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp47.i.mail.ru (smtp47.i.mail.ru [94.100.177.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 107F9E0B6C for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:58:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail2; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=UzmSp3xEjYYYrdfMTaSCcg1QDLdjARy7HXvC8XZTol4=; b=Y9oodVCGoKHUBhvim+CFyeSJNqrtt44f6YX1BTS5iVG2YjeIY0lBNCctwGsVkuTKeIcBp1vQfmd9EjJCfEi95QnoMDBKvAUNj3s0m9A6Lr9+yaI0Zy2MDyHDSXRGSiSeW1zsnIX5OVvTz6HlwO4Y1QnDzN6+kpuTQ4Ao7n2mpNI=; Received: from [95.221.3.210] (port=51009) by smtp47.i.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1VRPkR-0006Hy-Tk for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 20:58:04 +0400 Message-ID: <524C509A.40503@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 20:58:02 +0400 From: the User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130911 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <524761B4.60805@gmail.com> <20130929052937.GA30380@waltdnes.org> <201309290925.06893.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <5247E4C2.5040502@gmail.com> <52480720.7070704@googlemail.com> <52480902.9040305@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52480902.9040305@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Archives-Salt: e56e5e9c-ceff-44a1-af23-214bcb112f41 X-Archives-Hash: f661d7ffe44ecb925ff52a795fb202e9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/29/13 15:03, Greg Woodbury wrote: > On 09/29/2013 06:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL? >> >> They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone >> to break. >> > Except that systemd *is* why a seperate /usr is broken now. Parts > of the libraries that systemd depend on we *deliberately* placed in > /usr despite the fact that they are needed to bbring the system to > an operational state. For *years* things required to boot the > system were defined to be in the root file system, and items not > required until after mounting had been accomplished were to be > placed in /usr. Why would someone do that? > BTW: There is a standard (The File System Hierarch Standard - FSS) > that existed and described this behaviour. It was killed off by > deliberate vendor refusals to support or adhere to it. In > frustration, the folks involved simply gave up. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSTFCYAAoJEK64IL1uI2haTGcH/06AYbco8VDCT19DIuYUyebu TYI+zK7H994uDw9JuIsglYkhtqr0kKCMl2tvEqFbUuLDr7OqKG8fjim7xyRvV472 +kPS2q8Dm3R0gkLV4pf/x+8AasHfg0cHn2jdYMraPR1HzDDN14YQL31DtEaNbVko cDsQKp+FmAruWiJNSBD6b/WXmxmmuUi8EJTGVmEYN5n5ezlbZ+y5xQQR5BUxTK8H k2n5dKqBu33OYwKQnsl21nBa1zeZyupa8me6J+7XycxDGjvkBGhgnerSskyYI0cS rbEV6sBIfX7EEMaNHa7AdaQ5UhSgkA2yuDVrjHNRLRlhpYyy2iRziug7Bx24jcg= =8rAe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----