From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251C51381F3 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03A37E0BA5; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (mail-we0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5E8CE0AFB for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:33:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id t61so674183wes.6 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 05:33:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uqCHARszTZ7faH/MTxk1xcxq0q8YatpZrosvAfV1rbs=; b=XORVu4zOkXgtptjkT9h+2WpzlYGRhIDqLA8E4GUYlM5gAnPYwjOpCo9OKXGNL4222d PMUgcsNm14MfJnH88WFwd2kq/qnec4x/wNxl19WedpebniG6+kCqhljWOZvxQ51nogHS 27ZA6ovI320FyBwpHFIC7IAvicJilPR7dU4xMGrWV2c2m6a7xR7+CxeJXfZ0QH6qc09V RXzRpp4PDwdur0va3UX34eskXhCWsNCUDjQb75oxhLZ+ulCWOO/O34H7nyc85HIi1Fxm 3tpE6+wA4yjJ2WM2XOOnn7UauK5bBhH+m4Io8D+sFunmNACTzKcYSHgh3LZWjU5FTG2v 0s6A== X-Received: by 10.180.211.206 with SMTP id ne14mr1925148wic.30.1380717198492; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 05:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-210-102-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm16136073wij.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Oct 2013 05:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <524C116E.7060305@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:28:30 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <524759FB.2090304@gmail.com> <524869A5.4070306@libertytrek.org> <20130929185504.GA16543@linux1> <524892E3.5080402@libertytrek.org> <52489883.3090408@gmail.com> <5248AF6F.4040405@libertytrek.org> <52493D9F.3080504@gmail.com> <5249B421.8070909@googlemail.com> <5249CDA4.5090700@gmail.com> <524AC184.8000804@libertytrek.org> <524AD8C0.5090906@orlitzky.com> <524B1155.9070809@libertytrek.org> <20131001194834.0cbc592e@digimed.co.uk> <524C0BC0.3060707@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <524C0BC0.3060707@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7fd0c9cc-fa81-4fe6-a09f-48a6ac7c89a2 X-Archives-Hash: 690e466334bc9ddee606d365704a7a56 On 02/10/2013 14:04, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-01 2:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch >>> installation. > >> Why? > > While I'm not sure why it matters to you, it is because I have a policy > that I never change the defaults for anything without a (good) reason. > >> If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use >> defaults, Gentoo is it. > > True, but irrelevant to my question... > >>> Someone had to decide the defaults - so, what are they? Anyone? > >> I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still >> in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the >> portage directory lives, but the handbook still refers to /usr/portage. > > So you're saying Alan was wrong about /var being the new default... > > Alan? Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along. You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to a long-standing bug. Incidentally, do you know why the tree is in /usr? Because FreeBSD ports puts it there. Why did they do that? Because FreeBSD is not Linux; it is derived from SysV, which puts home directories and all manner of other things in /usr. It's as simple as that. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com