From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F041381F3 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA932E0B7E; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (mail-we0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C9EE0B42 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w62so6259930wes.29 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:14:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+ZpdfSM+d9/4E/z7OQTJZDy4YVPnL6dpgTb5maWMPko=; b=lRqd55w7to1AJ72TWDohhX9pjUDSrcwfK7dUqv+3HhukKTrlaBy3v3Kiry+FfiTotf VDrLzJ/+boeFqgO1A2V173I4uXM9XSyIK9iiBsDgPCR8VJUUxp3AM1MtbsTbnBUlGEgW /mQEYops3eslW/yLbE4e2ZftKvRBvTrC5qO6hcYiRu9XFVGj1DUB+whEkoKWFfc3IrbI iduZ4dCnu9kKXfqqmQH65OCyTC7GmOcTFh41bv5kWGvNRNqTGYfhIEdboTB48h4OmZR8 37KcsjTGBhARUGB5ehOGQoyQ09z72RISU/orwqAP1wbDPYMIH95k9oCwZJQqMGIGDvbt AeOg== X-Received: by 10.180.98.228 with SMTP id el4mr15366370wib.4.1380568480093; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-210-102-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm3878023wiz.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5249CC8F.4000902@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 21:10:07 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <52461056.9020604@gmail.com> <5246BE35.3010408@libertytrek.org> <5246D674.1010806@hadt.biz> <5246F07F.8050100@gmail.com> <524716C0.203@hadt.biz> <52471D5B.2020506@gmail.com> <52483E04.4040900@libertytrek.org> <52484627.1020102@gmail.com> <5248656F.3060602@libertytrek.org> <524870B4.8090905@gmail.com> <52487531.8080902@libertytrek.org> <52489D19.6080802@gmail.com> <5248B091.3070406@libertytrek.org> <5248B775.9070002@gmail.com> <5249B081.7010407@googlemail.com> <5249B425.3080702@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <5249B425.3080702@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d8901766-a932-49e7-921f-b8376eb26e1d X-Archives-Hash: ecaebea4b80752c003b8aa4b27e83c4c On 30/09/2013 19:25, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-30 1:10 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> 150gb for / with usr and you will be fine for ages. > > I'm curious what a common/average size is for desktops... > > My /usr, without portage files, is @ 5GB. > > My current / is only 83M, so even after I merge /usr into it, it will > still be only @ 5GB... > > But, this is a server, so... > > For an average desktop, loaded with software (say, KDE, Libreoffice, > etc), how much will /usr grow to? Or more specifically, what is a > *reasonable* maximum one could expect? > The big space hogs are: /usr/lib* /usr/share/ most of that comes from KDE and Gnome. Both systems are huge and bundle lots of "accessory" files - best descriptive word I could find. The main culprit by far is artwork - themes, wallpaper, sound themes, icon collections and so on. Second is marble, celestia and similar geo* type apps with their maps. I'd say 20G total is a) lots more than you'd actually need even with tons of unneeded artwork and b) a tiny fraction of the smallest (spinning) disk you can buy these days. So 20G is a good upper limit to start with. Marble and celestia users can bump it up according to their needs - anyone who has detailed maps of the entire Earth's land surface likely already knows how much disk space it takes up :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com