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On 30/09/2013 06:14, Walter Dnes wrote:
> If the udev people had made "net ifnames=0" the default, and allowed
> the small percentage of multi-nic machine admins to set "net.ifnames=1",
> this would not have been an issue. Some corner case exotic setups
> require complex solutions... no ifs/ands/ors/buts. All the complaining
> you hear is from the other 99% who's setup worked just fine with the
> simple solution, suddenly finding the complex solution rammed down their
> throats.
No, that is just plain wrong.
Having interfaces on a multi-nic host come up as ethX where X is a
mostly random number is just so broken it beggars belief. Trust me, it
is zero fun when it happens and what makes it even worse if you have no
warning at all beforehand.
Go check out FreeBSD sometime and see how they number their nics, and
see how it is completely reliable every single time. Check Windows for
that matter, they also don't have the problem. Neither does MacOS.
All that happened is that Linux and udev got dragged screaming and
bitching into the 21st century wrt nic naming, and things are now in a
better situation they should have been in many many years ago. But, as
usual, people are resistant to change even when the change is something
that does indeed need to happen.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com