Re: [gentoo-user] systemd installation location

[pk <peterk2@coolmail.se>]

On 2013-09-30 04:05, Mark David Dumlao wrote:

> It's true that it's nice to have a semblance of order where different parts go.
> But "all libraries and binaries in /usr" is also a semblance of order. You don't
> separate stuff for the sake of separating stuff. You separate them because you
> have a good reason to separate them. It turns out that there isn't a good reason
> to separate them, and that there's no way to predictably separate them.
> 
> Mushing them together isn't just a stop-gap or good-enough solution. The
> idea of keeping system-critical separate from non-critical was not maintainable
> in the long run to begin with.

So what you're saying is that everything in /usr is system-critical? I
have gimp installed in /usr... I don't see a need to start gimp at boot
time. Maybe we should classify frozen-bubble as system-critical as well
(it's also in /usr)?

Seriously, boot-critical would be something that the system cannot *boot
without*, which belongs in /. Everything else should be in /usr, i.e.
non-boot-critical. How hard is it to start *non-boot* (system) critical
*after* boot (things like sshd)? I do that today...

> are the same. Distro packagers, however, have to decide for 100% of the cases.
> So they're going to end up making weird decisions that are easy for you to
> second-guess but are actually tough.

That's only true for binary distros.

> If you want to solve the "hard problem", you want to create a tool that
> will automate / and /usr migrations. Portage has to be aware of the tool

What's wrong with using autotools? I really don't see why you need it to
be dynamic. In Gentoo you install stuff once for every version (or if
you change use flag). Why invent stuff/complicate matters when you don't
need to?

Best regards

Peter K