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* [gentoo-user] No auto-add to programs list in GNOME after emerges
@ 2005-09-02  3:37 Greg Shikhman
  2005-09-02 14:45 ` Holly Bostick
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From: Greg Shikhman @ 2005-09-02  3:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hi,
 After installing gentoo and gnome on my current system, I don't get 
programs added to my program files after emerging them (ex: firefox-bin does 
not enter the menu after emerging it, I have to do it manually). Could 
anyone list any reasons why this could happen?

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* Re: [gentoo-user] No auto-add to programs list in GNOME after emerges
  2005-09-02  3:37 [gentoo-user] No auto-add to programs list in GNOME after emerges Greg Shikhman
@ 2005-09-02 14:45 ` Holly Bostick
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Holly Bostick @ 2005-09-02 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Greg Shikhman schreef:
> Hi,
> 
> After installing gentoo and gnome on my current system, I don't get 
> programs added to my program files after emerging them (ex: 
> firefox-bin does not enter the menu after emerging it, I have to do 
> it manually). Could anyone list any reasons why this could happen?

Does the item still not appear after you have in one way or another
restarted the gnome-panel (thereby re-reading the menu)?

I.e. , 1) killing gnome-panel and letting it restart; 2) logging out and
back in; 3) rebooting.

It fairly often happens that one expects the program to automatically
appear immediately after install (and much of the time it does), but it
does not appear to occur, because of the way the program is added to the
menu (or something), and so the item is there, but the menu is not
updated 'on-the-fly' to actually show it (until the menu in memory is
re-read due to a restart of the panel).

I see this a lot with -bin programs, for some reason (Loki stuff, OO.o,
doom3 and the like), they just don't show up till I log off and on
again-- but since I usually don't log off and on again, or reboot for
that matter, I think that there's something wrong.

Second possibility is that the programs you're installing are KDE or
other WM programs that are not interoperable with the GNOME menu. This
is obviously not the case for something like Firefox, but you could
install.... oh, KPat, 750 times and it's never going to appear in the
GNOME menu (though K3b will).

Third possibility is that you're using an older version of GNOME with
"even more broken menu functionality" than the current version (2.10.x)
has? GNOME, like KDE is migrating to the freedesktop.org standard, but
until such migration is complete, we will still encounter bumps like
this. GNOME 2.10 is the first major effort to integrate these standards,
and it's not a completely smooth transition (especially since many
application install routines are not necessarily compiant with the
standard either, sometimes because the install routine was created
before there *was* a standard to comply with). That probably explains
why I see this most with -bin files.

Anyway, hope this helps... I think the problem may not be as great as it
appears, but please test and see.

Holly
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