From: Daniel Campbell <lists@sporkbox.us>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:40:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5248F2C2.9040301@sporkbox.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130930031345.GA17815@linux1>
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On 09/29/2013 10:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>>> /usr/lib/udev..... /usr/lib/systemd.....
>>>
>>> were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of
>>> folks.
>>>
>>> So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not
>>> true.
>
> Udev is installed in / in gentoo. I am a co-maintainer of udev and
> that was fixed quite some time back, it is the Gentoo systemd team
> that installs their version of udev in /usr.
>
> Installing udev or eudev, however, doesn't really solve the issue
> though, because it is possible to run arbitrary programs from
> within udev rules.
>
> Another unrelated concern is if you install a program in / that
> needs to access something in /usr/share, this will be broken by not
> having /usr mounted. This means that, for example, the locale logic
> of most software can't work without /usr since it accesses files in
> /usr/share/locale.
>
> William
>
I believe you misquoted. Greg said those things; I was merely quoting
him. :)
You're right, though; it's a problem that lots of programs have. I
guess it's the natural result of modular software that has
interdependencies. You basically need *everything* available on boot.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-30 3:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-30 2:03 [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem Greg Woodbury
2013-09-30 2:21 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-09-30 3:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-09-30 3:40 ` Daniel Campbell [this message]
2013-10-01 8:36 ` Greg Woodbury
2013-10-01 8:30 ` Greg Woodbury
2013-10-01 8:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 2:51 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-09-30 8:10 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
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