From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579B71381F3 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 386EFE0F57; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mahal.bihira.com (mahal.bihira.com [67.159.5.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DFF9E0A89 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 118.70-40-235.netnet.net ([70.40.235.118]:44014 helo=[192.168.1.144]) by mahal.bihira.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VQSCG-0001V8-1V for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:22:49 +0000 Message-ID: <5248D265.4080908@sporkbox.us> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:22:45 -0500 From: Daniel Campbell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130921 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd installation location References: <20130929195206.GA16744@linux1> <5248CBB9.5010205@sporkbox.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mahal.bihira.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sporkbox.us X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: mahal.bihira.com: authenticated_id: lists@sporkbox.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Archives-Salt: 11212a28-2d19-4dce-bdcc-111efe197da5 X-Archives-Hash: 66ca4848afc0baa70bf1d042ce830378 On 09/29/2013 08:17 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> I'm not affected by anything regarding the /usr switch, but I'd like >> to have a good talk with the first person who decided a >> system-critical binary belonged in /usr instead of /bin or /sbin. >> They've created a mess for every distro and any project that depends >> on their work. > > As I've pointed out before: > - "system-critical" is actually dependent on the system. A system dependent > on an smb share will find smbmount system critical. One dependent on > zfs-fuse will find fuse system critical. With the advent of fuse, arbitrary > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> >> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSSMu5AAoJEJUrb08JgYgHFz4H/iyZt6MlTeW702KOlIy2Ydse >> mzsfiyPfPz8Rbz0Mqp5/17R8aQzOUG4l6dZS7d9HFKuMCG7t+kNZCSvxD69XeTVO >> tZY6YjHCGQaE6WaAMbiasXfRTeRt4ZDtP5l/lCUsYcTCWN13PyIcHCb5rGNHnHqq >> J/OcSeF5EoS+G/uSAuzDVaQ5wa0Z0qkqVSqQGjJ5NUHYIA5ZrtYpMNDR+MkFYYAB >> 7I4JE5kDXRYoBSiLLDb7tI7F1nGogHXxzECmMYW4ZneU0AJwhUAK0kU+oTHY2Z9Q >> 8TcjpdaG1BH4gA2NT+i+ZJz4XNqkMPa2vbvhcfGFs9Dg7IwabiuunOzh0GQM1S4= >> =jgci >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > > It's fairly obvious (to me, anyway) that anything mounting a filesystem and making it available is system-critical. I run samba and don't need it for boot, but like you said, someone may need that. I wouldn't see a problem with smbmount being in /bin. FUSE deserves similar treatment. LVM's another that probably deserves special treatment.