From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AB91381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EE1AE0FB1; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B3B3E0FA1 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j7so1869303qaq.17 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:52:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9F6izAYHDbagdm9lUL4jODIGLc6LuZSbc90hztNRri8=; b=KuqL2E0NYJRoOc9HuJ5H8bSw6foVO3fThCMFEVfx1Vq7dKJE6Vu49hYc5AB9rOjdP3 wSb6yVtoQfOWJkQHwQSN+ETNUKmO2xyFqmS293F2NaI25uklvhPXpd9OcISxcRwJirp+ z7vINt03GsNfL9Ygvom8SdXH9YhdSKDyzNJf6QCLFuzwmJorlUreqKspRALK3e0mH68Y Qp9HYbkWCXGiiqug6UFBo9ChC4Pv5S+8oeukPNywVdM7YtG3Carrq/LCJV8pJ/o/RmgX gQSNJn/y1LO9y+iIlbAnEQ6dCcUN87wj5hP5wxeDVAFx5xmZDtActbRoF5eqRU8s3Fsl E/gw== X-Received: by 10.49.94.172 with SMTP id dd12mr25415552qeb.4.1380498758507; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.private ([50.124.179.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n10sm27877838qas.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5248BD3E.9060502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:52:30 -0400 From: Greg Woodbury User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130805 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <20130928003220.GF23408@server> <20130928160159.GA4247@linux1> <20130928190441.GB11317@acm.acm> <20130928211702.46eda062@digimed.co.uk> <52486A5D.1020402@libertytrek.org> <5248B18D.1040800@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <5248B18D.1040800@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 31ed4720-c8de-4de0-abcf-291caa55e5db X-Archives-Hash: a95a5228099d31dc7bf23a3b81735ac7 But I don't *want* to run a genkernel for reasons of my own. I do not *want* to have to have an init* pseudo-filesystem for reasons of my own. I may want to have a separate /usr for rrerasons of my own. Distros that *force* me to do things I don't want to do, for whatever reasons they claim, are not going to remain in my favor for long. Those claiming that a separate /usr has been broken for a while are, to be blunt, lying. Certain programs and libraries were added or moved to /usr in dirext violation of established practice. The massive objections of many folks were simply ignored and denigrated with extreme prejudice by certain folks who had acquired delusions of power beyond their proper roles. There is *only* ONE Linux God - Linus Torvalds - and even he abandoned GNOME when cetain things were done. (Nota Bene: somewhat tongue-in-cheek.) "Against stupidity, even the Gods strive in vain" and I suspect that Linus may not liek some of the shit going down, but is reluctantly dealing with the fallout. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury redwolfe(at)gmail.com