From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087A51381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AB7CE0BF5; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f49.google.com (mail-oa0-f49.google.com [209.85.219.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99713E0BDD for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id i4so3320290oah.8 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 14:41:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jUUOwHwChrsDJZ7+bVmnMTGb33tNBBb9KFO105Sl6NI=; b=sBAZLCQNX0VXwk2IyEpdA7RzqFAkclXc+skt+qu+Kdi1u6x8c9csaNsdsw9yYOaL42 sLm3hEHA5zbmQr4iYu0Bfui3EMsOhK+kfZZPDSD81gynOmJ6dlytklceC3wWPMFWMo0z wgL3mYO0TMI7Jm/Y2ipa17jT+d5AsXAfNRFeGD+DikfLHJ8hmw3/IcmSe7pi7rLGq/4Q uEK0FVzudESuy2PRz6E3gux9sz5FJljUPwX3okvq1ZyRrfQwId3/CSy6RwEaDqycfXnf BmJdUHNbxwo/jEYy12EP6Xzn7PDLDyh+zAF9owVNJu2UTokpk78sJolVO9H/ghKa6eEJ KEtA== X-Received: by 10.60.52.81 with SMTP id r17mr17051613oeo.3.1380490873786; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 14:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-149-129.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.149.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id it7sm25114548obb.11.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 14:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52489E78.7020804@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:41:12 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flexibility and robustness in the Linux organisim References: <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <524761B4.60805@gmail.com> <20130929052937.GA30380@waltdnes.org> <201309290925.06893.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <5247E4C2.5040502@gmail.com> <52480720.7070704@googlemail.com> <52480902.9040305@gmail.com> <52481602.6020305@googlemail.com> <52484363.7020309@gmail.com> <52484F5F.5090408@googlemail.com> <52485652.4060308@gmail.com> <5248828F.1000802@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5248828F.1000802@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d0879924-b882-4319-bae8-3a3d83f73ccf X-Archives-Hash: cd90152d0c0d00647027535e8e26c353 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/09/2013 18:33, Dale wrote: >>> that gnome is very hostile when it comes to KDE or choice is not news. >>>> And their dependency on systemd is just the usual madness. But they are >>>> not to blame for seperate /usr and the breakage it causes. >> If not, then what was it? You seem to know what it was that started it >> so why not share? >> > He already said it. Someone added a hard disk to a PDP-9 (or was it an 11?) > > Literally. It all traces back to that. In those days there was no such > thing as volume management or raid. If you added a (seriously expensive) > disk the only feasible way to get it's storage in the system was to > mount it as a separate volume. > > >From that one single action this entire mess of separate /usr arose as > folks discovered more and more reasons to consider it good and keep it > around > That wasn't the question tho. My question wasn't about many years ago but who made the change that broke support for a seperate /usr with no init thingy. The change that happened in the past few years. I think I got my answer already tho. Seems William Hubbs answered it but I plan to read his message again. Different thread tho. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!