From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC1E1381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7187DE0F0D; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D9F1E0EAD for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id cb5so2853205wib.3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SugJkIg3LeZ/TjTKVh4KFCincoWsk6gV+eH1L+Llf54=; b=n2eW6ILHCTuTkui8oU+9RTpC+aTapjMpyu0flBq/fjqDlkunwU4vrlmUbJUIHkLDMY cI1WSVxFWzBtZHb9wSVtls/DqF4OKqJKiagWfAf6rUfbh2+NA7MlT1ChM0P8Pfqv1FgV QMxtIf1oQ9R837P+lekNiXoZo6ZizD44x8gQztTNdS1qKqsNMd1nx00hnEbINNWFj60q HjkVV/X3PHlvptbuguWBeCS/wK0OAmrFOuMd5dM0c61FUEWjnVf03em1SY4OTA08FD+U j3OHz8awqYvXhuZO3HlRNJJlqgIHRrpRYzpXNAn5UAgem0hPzKOVzZ64Lo1zd3C1/w1T 5qtw== X-Received: by 10.194.170.133 with SMTP id am5mr102702wjc.42.1380487441773; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-210-102-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d11sm19183744wic.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52489003.7030201@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:39:31 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple systems with identical hardware References: <524358B0.1060000@gmail.com> <52449C1A.5000306@gmail.com> <5245E03A.2020605@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5359304c-f14b-44b7-a4ca-e2a95ab45c30 X-Archives-Hash: 0b09e84fb6ee1b140e195ea955391000 On 29/09/2013 20:36, Grant wrote: >>> I'm slowly coming to conclsuion that you are trying to solve a problem >>> with Gentoo that binary distros already solved a very long time ago. You >>> are forcing yourself to become the sole maintainer of GrantOS and do all >>> the heavy lifting of packaging. But, Mint and friends already did all >>> that work already and frankly, they are much better at it than you or I. >> >>>> I think it will work if I can find a way to manage the few differences >>>> above. Am I overlooking any potential issues? >> >> I think Grant Should look at CFengine, if he is not familar >> with it. It is the traditional 800 pound Gorrilla when it comes >> to managing many systems. Surely there are folks there in those >> forums that can help Grant filter his ideas until they are >> ready for action. CFengine is in portage. >> >> Alan may be right, as CFengine (or whatever) may work better >> with a binary distribution and is probable more tightly integrated >> with something like debian or such OSes. > > Can you give me a general idea of how my workflow might be with a > solution like that? It's not really possible to give a cut and dried answer to that, as all three solutions (CFEngine, Puppet, Chef) try hard to integrate themselves into your needs rather than get you to integrate into a rigid code-imposed system. I could say that you load a config into Puppet, define how it works and where it must go, then tell puppet to do it and let you know the results, but that doesn't tell you much. I reckon you should pop over to puppet's website and start reading. As you grasp the general ideas you'll find ways to make it work for you. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com