From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FC21381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CE98E0F0D; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A605E0EEA for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id m15so4753023wgh.19 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:21:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w369XwTNc338U1N1ufJTeCQsnTOYXPxg5Fg/OHiqN2w=; b=nqgraA7lszhRXzwEi5/4S92btDzxwXI5RsGHtJNHyJS2ogUY4WTkT/VuUfFjquZXK2 AP9Z0Z3LBAIr+Drf9lzhcFB3ry1MBKFik8r3nF2GKeCPlE1l5bfqSfTWExbQLCzx70N5 +WPWz0Un/YlDV4qBkOSN8YELloXs38xUKD3vEleBwPZp+4/L1tmuaxgh5nq7BEjSlpgR o+PV6bFpxiah4Jkr3Tp9OHfTVAhV06iRsLRHiUMseMncPLuFCEbuCCIhGQEDGd4uYAbU kgpRPl+whlt+r06Kmc7RIXkScLdpFYYjutH/TBOP4ixkrvIupikXD9sINWfK4+YwVrmt t2wQ== X-Received: by 10.180.185.97 with SMTP id fb1mr10870324wic.61.1380482465733; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-210-102-121.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dl10sm6181315wib.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52487C92.1020407@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:16:34 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <524761B4.60805@gmail.com> <20130929052937.GA30380@waltdnes.org> <201309290925.06893.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <5247E4C2.5040502@gmail.com> <52480720.7070704@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <52480720.7070704@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3649ef12-5e0c-4c63-a032-49bed7454969 X-Archives-Hash: 162dd8248c55d9fb530773d0e4798584 On 29/09/2013 12:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 29.09.2013 10:28, schrieb Alan McKinnon: >> On 29/09/2013 10:25, Mick wrote: >>> On Sunday 29 Sep 2013 06:29:37 Walter Dnes wrote: >>>> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 06:09:40PM -0500, Dale wrote >>>> >>>>> Most likely, I'll install Kubuntu to start. Then I may roam around >>>>> and test other distros until I find one I like. Thing is, I already >>>>> have a starting point. >>>> I'm already looking. http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=2265 >>>> and they also dislike systemd. I think I could get to like it. See >>>> also http://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-34 >>> Very interesting! This looks as a logical way to put udev back in its >>> userspace box and stop it breaking the OS, or did I understand it incorrectly? >>> >> Exherbo might be worth a look too[1]. >> >> It's a sort-of Gentoo fork using the portage tree and PMS; plus Ciaran >> strikes me as the kind of guy who *would* expend massive effort to find >> a way round current udev and systemd. >> >> >> [1] I didn't look myself. I have no idea what Exherbo's stance is on >> this matter. >> >> >> > > why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL? > > They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone to break. I fell victim to the sheer amount of fud around systemd and udev and typed without thinking enough. s/current udev and systemd/the root cause/g -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com