From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23611381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 162F2E0F02; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1316AE0BC7 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850F328405B for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:43:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=roFLjkKfAYizGPBScddgDpZimm8=; b=CQlvGtECAgpW vJLoYw00MNJgVZKKTnZzYPwRLKB48mpb3xjZwZLzBbLB++hZZrdDvuLm0KD0chjQ sg3KQ8eeaYXHtKrdRNipsXNeja/ezNxVU0Pf8G4JomZEadrDg4s+6KcW16i3Jyw+ 8gzZybfUXvDsfTvKZpsmtJmShFEGfsA= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a47.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57DBF284058 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <524866AE.4060908@libertytrek.org> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:43:10 -0400 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <20130928003220.GF23408@server> <20130928160159.GA4247@linux1> <5247128D.3030801@gmail.com> <20130928205308.547335bf@digimed.co.uk> <5247550D.5010200@gmail.com> <20130928234621.57754558@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20130928234621.57754558@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1df2a6d0-9096-4b1b-b3f8-7998abf6770b X-Archives-Hash: 87623796996b075273f8087ceb91f35f On 2013-09-28 6:46 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Except you can never break Gentoo with a kernel update because, unlike > some other distros, installing a new kernel does not uninstall the > previous one. No matter how badly wrng a kernel update goes, you can > always hit reset then select the old one from the GRUB menu - > reinstallation doesn't come into it. My understanding is that this is not true, and that a USERLAND update (LVM2, which I use, among them) can cause breakage that will cause the CURRENT kernel+initramfs to no longer boot. Is my understanding flawed? Totally side question: Anyone ever hear Linus' opinion of an initramfs being required to boot a system?