From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC10C1381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EE85E0A5F; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038BE0968 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568E07D406E for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=Pf/sODv2ZoZTTyKXhvidGxJoZ+U=; b=yJyUllLDTpku nKh9/KH5A8pipSOdhCCmduILOxaKKx3z8Nw6GrzIy7m98toXr5ackie8hgrsc4gC 6p9IlitNxcnaq7Spd0mJTyL/h/S+H4rhJaNpR99y/nnva6HdR175v4Duw6aV4MDL dJOsZGCzk5l4E1vpK1OTuP/ObX2u5bA= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a79.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A94D7D4059 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5248656F.3060602@libertytrek.org> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:37:51 -0400 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <52461056.9020604@gmail.com> <5246BE35.3010408@libertytrek.org> <5246D674.1010806@hadt.biz> <5246F07F.8050100@gmail.com> <524716C0.203@hadt.biz> <52471D5B.2020506@gmail.com> <52483E04.4040900@libertytrek.org> <52484627.1020102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52484627.1020102@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e5de2fdd-5d72-4268-b188-b7fb193aacfc X-Archives-Hash: ec8f11d8389b1f52843ab5af895bed8d On 2013-09-29 11:24 AM, Dale wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> Dale - I'm honestly curious, what is your reason, philisophical or >> technical, for wanting a separate /usr? >> >> Everything I've read says there is no good reason for it today. >> Separate /home, /tmp, /var, yes, good reasons for t hose... but not >> /usr... >> >> So, again - why would you prefer switching distro's over merging /usr >> back into / and be done with it? > The reason is the same I have posted before. I have / and /boot on > regular partitions. Everything else is on LVM. I don't have / on LVM > because it would require a init thingy. I don't have /boot on LVM > because grub doesn't or didn't support it. I have since switched to > grub2 so it may but still have the issue with / so no need redoing > everything for that. Well, I don't see a *reason* to WANT to have /usr on a separate partition. I see only THE reason that you have it there NOW. Also, logically speaking, if the stated reason for not having / (or /boot) on separate LVM partitions is because it would require an init thingy, then why can't you simply add /usr to that reason? Again, I'm asking for why you WANT it on a separate LVM partition, not why it is there now. The way I see it, if y ou cannot provide a rational answer to that question, then there is no reason for you to use this as a reason to abandon gentoo, only a reason to merge /usr into /...