From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FE61381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D306E0EA2; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20318E0E99 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n10so3326424oag.14 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:39:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1DjBTpynBz++8UtCMmpunZ3fqgFCc0AqI/7APRuOS8w=; b=PWU4Shkejsa1lMnnEOhRQJ2bBgmdtwOBvcci4oSj5HnHMuhf7ZWB1eom+L9kYFknOK Ej4Im6quBP1H9naTRglMXE3S7dIWJJWAYKhbicNIx9/1yGXIeQ/6oUep8Jh/UoQqsqAv x7K4dmBWWISuhUQzXaa+sU6Lj9SxYt4hgoWUmMBE+46x7FInjb6kzjJiYO29U3q7BS0x yoAJa7Vjp8UL6gDLlICnRTh/s3vr616kP0fJsw87fPkqKXryfUy6hwE1Zy9iNbWUc3zd zCFjZC7EPkli3bnHrd0FMMH3lCQORXCtSJVrpW1pQFOlgI2t+/Sp1JWecY9pI84opBaK eSng== X-Received: by 10.60.134.230 with SMTP id pn6mr225412oeb.52.1380469177318; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-149-129.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.149.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hs4sm23602375obb.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <524849B7.1050909@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:39:35 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <20130928003220.GF23408@server> <20130928160159.GA4247@linux1> <20130928190441.GB11317@acm.acm> <52483EE6.3050204@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <52483EE6.3050204@libertytrek.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7c71f21e-7632-41c4-855d-c4168543ae78 X-Archives-Hash: f91df8d2101b1491eb36085332bb30eb Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-28 3:04 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Hi, William. >> >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:01:59AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: >>> I have a pretty simple setup, but I have been using an initramfs >>> which I >>> built some time ago with genkernel and I barely know it is there. > >> Until, after some update, it reminds you of its presence by not booting >> your machine. That's the sort of excitement I can do without. > > Precisely. And, it is my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong), that > simply keeping your old kernel/initramfs around is NOT a guarantee (it > might work - and it might NOT) of being able to fallback to a known > working config until you figure it out. > > THAT, in a nutshell, is why my intention is to NEVER let one of those > things on my systems. > > . > That is a point I have made a few times. If the init thingy fails and I can't get my system to boot, Gentoo isn't doing me a bit of good. I can't boot to get help to fix it and I'm not walking up the tall hill to my brothers to try and get help with his computer. With my health, that would be only one trip, two at best. A OS is no different than anything else around here that is broken, if it is broke and I can't fix it, I replace it. I have done it with appliances and several other things including cars. All of whcih costs a lot more money and such than any OS out there that I know of. I think I'll update that Kubuntu disk right quick while I am thinking about it. Fall back plan just in case. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!