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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:49:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52388820.1070009@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN0CFw13XNLzCbTgPqUPfiz424tqu958xA2My7QYnbS9KkYqwg@mail.gmail.com>

On 17/09/2013 15:11, Grant wrote:
>>>>>>> Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID
>>>>>>> install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID
>>>>>>> controller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity
>>>>>> of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid controller
>>>>>> to JBOD mode and let ZFS take care of the RAID - and no LVM required (ZFS
>>>>>> has mucho better tools). That is my next big project for when I switch to my
>>>>>> next new server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just hoping I can get comfortable with a process for getting ZFS
>>>>>> compiled into the kernel that is workable/tenable for ongoing kernel updates
>>>>>> (with minimal fear of breaking things due to a complex/fragile
>>>>>> methodology)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't you just emerge zfs-kmod?  Or maybe you're trying to do it
>>>>> without module support?
>>>>
>>>> @tanstaafl's kernels have no module support.
>>>
>>> OK, but why exclude module support?
>>
>> Noooooooooo, please for the love of god and all that's holy, let's not
>> go there again :-)
> 
> Oopsie!
> 
>> taanstafl has his reasons for using fully monolithic kernels without
>> module support. This works for him and nothing will dissuade him from
>> this strategy - we tried, we really did. He won.
> 
> It must be for security.


Essentially, yes. He once explained his position to me nicely - he knows
exactly what hardware he has and what he needs, it never changes and he
never needs to tweak it on the fly. Once the driver is in the running
kernel, it stays there till a reboot. Modules he benefits, but he
doesn't need them.

That was the point I realised I didn't have an answer in his world.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



      reply	other threads:[~2013-09-17 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-13 20:00 [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server Grant
2013-09-13 20:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-13 21:39   ` Grant
2013-09-14  8:14     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-14  8:54       ` Grant
2013-09-14  9:02         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-14  9:14           ` Grant
2013-09-13 20:44 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-09-13 21:47   ` Grant
2013-09-13 22:47     ` Peter Humphrey
2013-09-13 22:54       ` Daniel Frey
2013-09-14  8:50         ` Grant
2013-09-14 11:32           ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-15 11:15             ` Grant
2013-09-16  9:54               ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-14 14:37           ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-09-16  6:49             ` Grant
2013-09-16 13:10               ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-09-17  6:43                 ` Grant
2013-09-17 12:30                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-09-17 13:13                     ` Grant
2013-09-17 16:46                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-13 23:17     ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-09-14  8:52       ` Grant
2013-09-14 11:35     ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-13 21:58 ` thegeezer
2013-09-13 22:14   ` Grant
2013-09-14  8:59 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
2013-09-14  9:10   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-14  9:29     ` Grant
2013-09-14 11:07       ` Michael Hampicke
2013-09-15 11:07         ` Grant
2013-09-14 14:36       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-14 11:34     ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-14 14:42       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-14 11:04   ` thegeezer
2013-09-15 11:05     ` Grant
2013-09-14 11:18 ` [gentoo-user] " Tanstaafl
2013-09-15 11:10   ` Grant
2013-09-17  5:36     ` Pandu Poluan
2013-09-17  6:32       ` Grant
2013-09-17  9:24       ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-17 10:01       ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-17  7:28   ` Grant
2013-09-17  7:37     ` Pandu Poluan
2013-09-17  9:49       ` Grant
2013-09-17 10:10         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-17 13:11           ` Grant
2013-09-17 16:49             ` Alan McKinnon [this message]

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