From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD79C1381F3 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A05A7E0C6C; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com (mail-bk0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 802D9E0C5D for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id mz10so2094227bkb.3 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3+ErUMdIM6jni+IAMEBEl1i7yl6/6/ALmDpYQ2Ub7QI=; b=EZ1149GZxxmfZt+bXqATWt2sSL5Y0OPTIVCdltusQpXpd3FtPGpPR/hqoanay2a6z+ 7RURmxsdKYFCRVfewNu6a5kg5OPhd1/GEm3Ohvy7T4mICYHYEsqvWBsdPam48b4l068I ni+I0grzmYLsOHUOTUjv0y7JYxMOYDeOrCOBRJ6bLaJZkAr8tl21uCbJ13yzQqsRGgGp 6OYA4NzzM+nfbeIddDCgzcRucyLdrG73nOTk8DNwPwBsxbGhBtVzhVXtivnlva1+L3xS uWZYrPgSzlgTDr7HjKWKISppTquw3o0Lj75CYWYsyoRNYJzxcOaFw6p451TVOzA4AUTz rTsg== X-Received: by 10.205.65.17 with SMTP id xk17mr28198843bkb.19.1379412859875; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.20.197] (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm4249293bko.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52382A80.4040302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:10:08 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server References: <523445F3.2040200@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3ef54bc8-90bb-46d4-a1fa-7ceeb05fce95 X-Archives-Hash: 147a06d482ffd39932f90cd55bd620c7 On 17/09/2013 11:49, Grant wrote: >>>>> Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID >>>>> install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID >>>>> controller? >>>> >>>> Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity >>>> of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid controller >>>> to JBOD mode and let ZFS take care of the RAID - and no LVM required (ZFS >>>> has mucho better tools). That is my next big project for when I switch to my >>>> next new server. >>>> >>>> I'm just hoping I can get comfortable with a process for getting ZFS >>>> compiled into the kernel that is workable/tenable for ongoing kernel updates >>>> (with minimal fear of breaking things due to a complex/fragile >>>> methodology)... >>> >>> Can't you just emerge zfs-kmod? Or maybe you're trying to do it >>> without module support? >> >> @tanstaafl's kernels have no module support. > > OK, but why exclude module support? Noooooooooo, please for the love of god and all that's holy, let's not go there again :-) taanstafl has his reasons for using fully monolithic kernels without module support. This works for him and nothing will dissuade him from this strategy - we tried, we really did. He won. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com