Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE: unwanted dependencies

["Yuri K. Shatroff" <yks-uno@yandex.ru>]

On 13.09.2013 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 13/09/2013 21:35, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>> On 13.09.2013 14:14, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>>>> Hi people,
>>>>
>>>> I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1.
>>>> Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which
>>>
>>> No
>>
>> Pity.
>>
>>>> appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it
>>>> doesn't seem to help.
> While the USE flag has disappeared, you could try putting nepomuk and
> akonadi into your package.provided file.
>
>>>> My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which
>>>> also brings along tons of other crap).
>>>
>>>
>>> The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back.
>>
>> Some time back I heard that KDE devs were striving to make KDE more
>> modular.
> KDE upstream is, yes, and how this will affect semantic-desktop remains
> to be seen.

so there is hope? ;)

>>> It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build
>>> whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff
>>> to be built, and disable the function in System Settings.
>>
>> Well why wasn't it too hard before? It's not quite obvious why one's got
>> to "extract" some additional functionality, as opposed to including it
>> when needed. A strange approach, all in all.
> The decision to remove the USE flag happened mostly because it maintain,
> and was in general not well supported anyway.
>
> There have been a number of proposals about the situation: do nothing,
> do a full revert, or implement some compromise. I would hope that we
> make a final decision about this before stabilising any 4.11 version.

Clear, then I'll opt to wait for the stable 4.11.

>> BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now. At least,
>> the average joe can't be scorned any more for not having a "server". Hey
>> to all localhost admins! :)
> That shouldn't be the case. The default akonadi backend is mysql, why
> could explain why it's being pulled in.

Yes, really, I was mislead, it is qtsql which requires setting the mysql 
flag, but I missed that it was due to akonadi.

Thank you for the detailed answer, Michael.
-- 
Best wishes,
Yuri K. Shatroff