From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EFE1381F3 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE4CBE0C53; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward6l.mail.yandex.net (forward6l.mail.yandex.net [84.201.143.139]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78D0E0A5B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (smtp11.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.67]) by forward6l.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 68E3014E0D9E for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:35:12 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp11.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 25B1A7E0318 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:35:12 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 31.207.68.232.pppoe-dynamic.pushkinnet.ru (31.207.68.232.pppoe-dynamic.pushkinnet.ru [31.207.68.232]) by smtp11.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id f6UyisoXW1-ZBC0JD1B; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:35:11 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1379072111; bh=DmhOE/FGfW+mv+1S1eoSdFsk60WOXyDMNaz+Dm7+6ww=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vOGw4NfA63QI5xgjbRYw6hVPBDYcyl4Jmx4GbDp2FbYdEKDGXFnETaGzUc+y+6xTK Snr0VWyhXbFzucktejMMg6wm6sj3kv3VgEg3XSwWdk7JtdQvl9qhOxqjBvTUr5smYs YlShJBmJKhs5mlNdPUDBBYnOloMMAGolwxFB4R4c= Authentication-Results: smtp11.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <5232F86F.3090909@yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:35:11 +0400 From: "Yuri K. Shatroff" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130619 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE: unwanted dependencies References: <5232E48B.6060608@yandex.ru> <5232E582.6000907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5232E582.6000907@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b7f8ef60-da96-4ef0-9495-bbca1c21efc8 X-Archives-Hash: 23d3f9e3b4ac64369a5ecdf741f39989 On 13.09.2013 14:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: >> Hi people, >> >> I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1. >> Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which > > No Pity. >> appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it >> doesn't seem to help. >> My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which >> also brings along tons of other crap). > > > The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back. Some time back I heard that KDE devs were striving to make KDE more modular. > It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build > whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff > to be built, and disable the function in System Settings. Well why wasn't it too hard before? It's not quite obvious why one's got to "extract" some additional functionality, as opposed to including it when needed. A strange approach, all in all. > What this in effect means is you spend an extra 20 minutes building and > have a few more meg of disk space consumed by code than you never run. I personally care little about the megs, but the moral effect. Thousands of people posted much about these doubtful features and disabling them, and asked not to include them into KDE base, but all effort was vain. In trite words, KDE followed the windows way: we know better what you need... (Okay, no offense.) BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now. At least, the average joe can't be scorned any more for not having a "server". Hey to all localhost admins! :) Thanks for clarification, Alan. -- Best wishes, Yuri K. Shatroff