From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6250D1381F3 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 15:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0CAFE0E6E; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 15:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f49.google.com (mail-ee0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BB5DE0E67 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 15:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id d41so1672507eek.8 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 08:54:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KR+x9XjHhiJJwl2ybnDnxvJd2Bbz92ADKbcS8hvgEbQ=; b=rPzAGpl+DANPpS3vjwPHPCHzPQYbg+OlXLYsmW9THJsWoyE1NAA/GFGI6yeaFmmF9e yVhCbdL44AxNWPY9iAbSUwAcXOvMYIDVacycT40MF+FpGuEoBoZLcgF7JruDqYfL3Jbz oFeZOkRhM2cpo2BGeFqYJVLo1/xw+mgFJFImCHm667l6jbvn3Qq0Q8YQJphlceavWKs3 nryXyCkq4VzH3TvIEqhTe29rw4Cm/U5YuS1xFNFx+CSpFzQmdJB60SDjk3BhRY+l//zw d7fvX+LsG6N0PqeZc7t8qul8QfKhRV79AbX1K+M2gIPoZVtIQF0fVW/LE7uQZrjDhWuG cIzg== X-Received: by 10.14.208.194 with SMTP id q42mr4971395eeo.31.1378482841972; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 08:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.11] ([88.151.74.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h52sm2431009eez.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Sep 2013 08:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5229F9FC.8080307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 17:51:24 +0200 From: Jarry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo??? References: <5229EE4E.7070003@gmail.com> <5229F129.6000307@orlitzky.com> <5229F373.6020206@gmail.com> <5229F590.1050106@orlitzky.com> In-Reply-To: <5229F590.1050106@orlitzky.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 127610b1-c2d2-4535-b982-0ce93b6f4d06 X-Archives-Hash: b576ec2b8f99faa5e082168abcd1c84d On 06-Sep-13 17:32, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/06/2013 11:23 AM, Jarry wrote: >>> >>> It wasn't part of @system before, you just removed the thing that pulled >>> it in. >> >> No I did not. mail-mta/ssmtp was part of stage3. And I did not >> remove now any "thing" that pulled it in. All I did was >> "emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse world". >> >> As a result, python-exec, python-argparse and libxml2 were >> reinstalled and automake-wrapper, gtk-doc-am, eselect and >> linux-header updated. Nothing else. >> >> After that I did "emerge --depclean" and the above mentioned >> packages were suddenly removed... >> > > It could be that a package's deps were updated to no longer include > virtual/mta. But it was never part of @system, you can check for yourself: > > http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/base/packages?view=log Then something got broken because I have packages installed that need mailer (i.e. app-admin/monit or sys-fs/mdadm are configured to send emails). And these packages do not have "mail" use-flag, because their maintainers apparently expect standard *nix mailer (/usr/bin/sendmail) exists on the system... So now I have "stable" system, updated to the latest level, where a lot of things suddenly do not work. This should *never* happen! If it was some package's dep that caused it, it's clear this change was premature... Jarry -- _______________________________________________________________ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.