From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4E31381F3 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E9CEE0A7F; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32E49E09E7 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c10so1820066wiw.5 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QUfGPzcbQy8i6Whezpqd3v7mpFEM48oCM8wmeucsbKk=; b=fxC4pwnSnorFy2DKj8BzoyEcGckzPXmYgmvQzMxesMFfRVAbGO4FacQIVb5MkUss8d Wm2HudYUjVdYV6PSFTa/MB8rT2kj5Ry9ahKy5X0hNX+lMsRBR14ysp+r5r6CXhocUiFN 3B8bgpZ/RLrPuFqZx6QCvSqmgJ5Asc526zobJ2cjoxDkyUhBXD4s+9397dLyZw/+jzDk Y1IMzn7gOpp5oKaU8E3MQus6oCipyc18xJUC+kwfniR+I2h/cdAGqvEWFEkU8Vmisgm+ pcLAICrTQw3IRgSycuwZ41M+LwsRGVz4oLhdV9BtqyC4F5lSxUfT5kfWlBCWg4W67q1B F16g== X-Received: by 10.194.179.98 with SMTP id df2mr2926752wjc.49.1377636625840; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-210-127-149.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.127.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mw9sm214952wic.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <521D103C.3090006@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:46:52 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo References: <439435.46090.bm@smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <521C42BA.8020201@gmail.com> <521c5afb.YPRgKxBo0FA+VIpR%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <521C6539.1020804@gmail.com> <521c6c8e.2e4CKLbW/r8l63fJ%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <521c70d6.W9K+fAxIeJBFLPGj%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <521c70d6.W9K+fAxIeJBFLPGj%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 69f23099-7814-4185-831b-4befbdbfb4ec X-Archives-Hash: 1f71192e54820291125fcdda10d529a7 On 27/08/2013 11:26, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>>> Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed >>>> source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But >>>> you are correct that the problem seem to be humans and not a license text. >>> >>> You are aware that the GPL was not really intended to be used together >>> with other licenses? It was really intended to create an entire >>> operating system, all of which was 100% licensed as GPL, all of which >>> comprise an original work written from scratch >> >> But it has been proven that you cannot create a 100% GPL OS. >> More than 50% of all Linux distros are under different licenses... >> > > Sorry, this should be: More than 50% of a typical Linux distro is > under different licenses... All we can state for sure is that no-one has yet created a fully 100% GPL operating system. If you persuade FSF to relicense glibc to you as GPL it *is* possible to do it for kernel and (a somewhat crippled) userland. But not for firmware. But this is beside the point, I was illustrating Stallman's intent, not whether that intent could be realized or not. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com