From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D14A1381F3 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EADF4E0A9A; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD998E0A5D for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cb5so2591560wib.4 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:00:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YFQ8OlNHR4iGoytvw1a6BIpUPFa3g1LTVQjR4g1ooF0=; b=HNIVtsagcgEosh7l6x4bBdNPMLJ/83o8aeJjMW6/j/YOjydNYyDHU3S3PMBmjyVjoB a9kImoitgLm8N5zFjgOQ+rJr//iwW0ycJKdWw8WUnLq8+6ida4ULrf16r2bNlttDdCMy n51X+0x3XDfmhwlVtXUFZ9tjXSqIzNkQceiGo9sY4Tb/kXTtLwgdN/p/fPGmlyGFXB83 IV4WSm9EIAGwGdy095Bf8BnEOLutWiiXG/wmV7y9ykm3pRWPQAlxItXNUXbLGpNV+l8B cnbTAqfNoR31rGmF2W8xuOrIloMscaCRj7eRe19eXDCsmfYl81/iGryt1XdxpwG23Gpg qWUg== X-Received: by 10.180.185.146 with SMTP id fc18mr10079601wic.44.1377583252520; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-210-127-149.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.127.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mb7sm23200190wic.10.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <521C3FC0.2070209@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:57:20 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet? References: <20130823180959.GA13353@artifex> <1746861.kq9W4Fkxay@apollo> <20130823231239.4d4df2db@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <52186597.6030407@gmail.com> <20130824194527.122b5436@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <521A2E41.2020001@gmail.com> <20130825205246.3ece7b78@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <521AEF78.5020909@gmail.com> <20130826210655.1c5506dd@fuchsia.remarqs.net> In-Reply-To: <20130826210655.1c5506dd@fuchsia.remarqs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 5009e8f3-33da-4099-a1e8-53e616492fcf X-Archives-Hash: d4e70c6e8388e3173389609ad392f9c9 On 27/08/2013 04:06, »Q« wrote: > On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 26/08/2013 03:52, »Q« wrote: >>>> I doubt your wiki page idea will work, it will be just accurate >>>> enough >>>>> to look like it might work and just inaccurate enough to be >>>>> useless. Which brings you back to the previous paragraph - try >>>>> emerge nvidia-drivers and if it fails then don't use that kernel. >>> I was unclear to the point of being misleading. I'm sorry. >>> >>> The wiki idea is only for a page which tells which >>> kernel/nvidia-drivers combinations the Gentoo nvidia-drivers >>> maintainers support. And by "support", I mean they'll look into >>> bugs and fix build problems if they're able to. This is exactly >>> the info I'm grepping out of ewarn messages in their ebuilds now. >> >> >> That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is easy >> to find. > > Where? AIUI from reading various threads about this, sometimes that > info can be found in nVidia's developer web forum, but I've never been > able to find it there. nVidia's READMEs give a minimum kernel version, > but no max. So ask nVidia to clearly and unambiguously state in an easily found place what kernels *they* support. Look, all issues with building the driver shim are directly the responsibility of nVidia themselves, a result of *their* business decisions. The correct thing to do is to make it nVidia's problem and not force the community to jump through hoops trying to track down what does and does not work today. Or, you could do the heavy lifting yourself. You test all current drivers with all recent kernels and maintain a gentoo wiki page that lists the info you want. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com