From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0551381F3 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18B3FE0B27; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.no-carrier.info (kraftzwerg.no-carrier.info [87.98.242.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18F14E0A99 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F0E204205 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:05:53 +0200 (CEST) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Class: Innocent X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.99 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: N/A X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at Received: from mail.no-carrier.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.no-carrier.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AXU4ZUPMfSmc for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:05:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.103] (p4FD188CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.209.136.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mail@marc-stuermer.de) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8C642041A7 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:05:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <521636D9.7040808@marc-stuermer.de> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:05:45 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marc_St=FCrmer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130817 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative References: <20130820151232.GA2420@artifex> <52163318.7010106@marc-stuermer.de> <52163518.7010209@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <52163518.7010209@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 407318d0-60b1-4390-9ba2-a246c36d98ff X-Archives-Hash: feb4ce5ed65c2362bf782de3e1a6c211 Am 22.08.2013 17:58, schrieb hasufell: > You probably missed those hundreds of bugs we devs and also users were > faced with, including linkage against non-existing sonames, random > crashes and breakage when the binary is stripped. > > So this is somewhat wrong information. It's like saying windows works > right out of the box without problems. I am not arguing from the admin site of Skype; I am arguing from the user side. You can install Skype almost whereever you want, behind a NAT-Router, Firewall, whatever, it just works. That's why it is so popular. Try the same with Ekiga and you got probably tons of troubles.