From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCB41381F3 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1729E0BC8; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9BEAE0B27 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.5] (blfd-5d823118.pool.mediaWays.net [93.130.49.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEABE33E9B5 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52163518.7010209@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:58:16 +0200 From: hasufell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130813 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative References: <20130820151232.GA2420@artifex> <52163318.7010106@marc-stuermer.de> In-Reply-To: <52163318.7010106@marc-stuermer.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: eb9ee89b-b577-47b2-9f43-d4dee167c73f X-Archives-Hash: 5c04232d20b5589ad590b10ba622edc6 On 08/22/2013 05:49 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > And why not? Because most users just want a program that works right out > of the box for them without problems and Skype is just that. It went > great lengths to achieve this goal. > You probably missed those hundreds of bugs we devs and also users were faced with, including linkage against non-existing sonames, random crashes and breakage when the binary is stripped. So this is somewhat wrong information. It's like saying windows works right out of the box without problems.