From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A331381F3 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2502BE0E0A; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E95E0B44 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379EB68C05F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:09:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=libertytrek.org; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= libertytrek.org; bh=LwZMhInvEArvo0avhYy+7ghyWJ8=; b=t/z2p7Q5K/qv i2MVASJMvGNV55eJJTiIkyw45+pj+Pw2rKGfm9jn2eV9nBN5yFE23y8hZqu1zHE1 zCV7AGKIXLMhsSWeaejm/OeWBkRj/GP+3wdCJpA/5Mj2jg2nnrMNht8nYkKCQ86x BGyCx9pHeJarjh3hcocVSvsVvWknuLw= Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [159.63.145.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tanstaafl@libertytrek.org) by homiemail-a42.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 944CB68C05D for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52137877.9050302@libertytrek.org> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:08:55 -0400 From: Tanstaafl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo References: <5211226F.2000000@libertytrek.org> <201308182208.43780.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <521142A7.1020702@coolmail.se> <52114F82.5070608@gmail.com> <5211E5DE.2050901@coolmail.se> <5211EDAC.9040401@gmail.com> <52121C6F.5040504@libertytrek.org> <52121F72.8090103@gmail.com> <52124A4E.8050806@libertytrek.org> <52128612.2070505@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52128612.2070505@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: dc37fe73-656e-43aa-bb38-8ec6170fdcb7 X-Archives-Hash: b080b8032b6526387c0d6d1449982449 On 2013-08-19 4:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 19/08/2013 18:39, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-08-19 9:36 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> For your other question, you don't need an initramfs if your /usr is not >>> split off and drivers for your fs on / and chipset are compiled in. That >>> will stay true for ages to come (until some joker starts shipping kernel >>> drivers in /var....) >> Right, but that wasn't my question, my question was will I be able to >> continue using eudev (or mdev, or whatever)... > Surely that depends on how well-maintained eudev remains in the future? > And is therefore best answered by the package maintainers? You misunderstand. I'm concerned about feature/dependency creep, where all of a sudden the Gentoo Council makes a decision (or is forced into a decision) that makes it *impossible* for eudev (or any alternative) to work without systemd. Or even worse, I actually had a dream (nightmare?) last night about an email to the list that went something like: "Announcement: The Gentoo Council, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to make Fedora Core the official upstream for Gentoo. This is being done to make all of our lives easier, and so that we can all have GNOME on the desktop."