From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4951381F3 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 791CAE0F62; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EB66E0EDE for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hq12so3466989wib.16 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mNIXjBSyPH84Q/BNoShW2MC9oox6t0uHkvmnX2BvRm8=; b=GmL/hUVcc4De6f+rFCV9Ev9E31H6haf222MeU2G4QbjAsaMAZU1wbTTar9/QLVxg86 XGchQAbtvqxPu2OB60SMJ1OrR1d06afsrxPkRzIuEgEsdbIEYhvEOcF5jcbzlX4I0nJx BB1S4Ovvp1RPB+yYMyg/ENg7aJpwwN24vrXhyqYNAUj7j/eBxGq5vFBSrnHg6bA7r76I ajRThjGgQoy4tofMR/K6W5mT/ZJNoMUrWf2/MWaTqKHZjBGHWK6BxakjZAMNo6NUqUCx jzSAS1msJRITRraAJDRwwuUXyyF+mrRW5RtzYIQoWy5xcO1cdMTe0ro8XNx+EHUkbiiT FS8Q== X-Received: by 10.180.183.51 with SMTP id ej19mr9861188wic.60.1376945694738; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (196-210-127-211.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.127.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i5sm19981832wiw.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5212855A.4010909@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:51:38 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo References: <5211226F.2000000@libertytrek.org> <201308182208.43780.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <521142A7.1020702@coolmail.se> <52119410.9050202@sporkbox.us> <5211BCB0.1060106@gmail.com> <52120BEE.1070000@coolmail.se> <5212199F.8070000@gmail.com> <3fa21fc6-3c62-43de-a002-2190be4aa597@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: <3fa21fc6-3c62-43de-a002-2190be4aa597@email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1913d781-c302-49f6-9296-43d59d1c58e8 X-Archives-Hash: 6071fff68f4304e12aa141c28080300d On 19/08/2013 22:32, joost@antarean.org wrote: >> X11, well that's another story and probably way off topic. It was >> >designed for hardware and architectures that haven't existed for 20+ >> >years. Almost all factors that made X11 awesome in the 80s and 90s >> >simply are not there anymore. > X11 was still really awesome in 2002. When we used remote graphical logons to different machines. > It also helped with performance of certain desktop applications. Running the application on a different machine (with better CPU) then the machine I was working at always made people wonder why the same application was performing so badly on theirs ;) > > But these days. Having fast reliable performance locally is better. With a decent RDP that can connect to an existing desktop without having to set it up as shared from the beginning is more useful. Any ideas on that? Agreed. I've gotten so used to all that local *GL* goodness that running almost any app (except maybe xterm) remotely is just so painful it makes me cry... I'm also lucky in that when I managed to foist all the oracle with java installers off onto some other team of luckless suckers, I was left with just the best remote interface ever - ssh and bash. So I can afford to be smug :-) I don't know how to make your RDP problem easier - I treat that the same as allow/deny rules for ssh (or any other kind of access really) and just accept that sometimes I need to ask first for something to be allowed. again, I can afford to be smug here too as the only things I need to RDP to are terminals set up for that very purpose and VirtualBox VMs (that is one more check box at the create stage). -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com