From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFFF1381F3 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67CAEE0E91; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A81CE0C99 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so2296293eak.32 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:52:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mr81wI7DgtQW6e4Abo3w8NonDXqUHAToisyTQMMhtDE=; b=OI/B3/0BS2cH0pryVS5AOq3yqFpUonQgKeyJyHqthxv5KsVE3k7OpOSs5pmHizHpbT W0BWF2guUvbF9/rUZLsc8R81kLl8hKzHhPiCYB2ilcukQp1DhfD1goZOtumJ4Da48MW/ YVnhHjp2/i0bTS5BCtem7UDpTfZHrbnLY19xMlCsUNokn9WzGJbenf6Ve695X2b/ofbi +htDoSSR22OapRc319nipdCVU0DDKXtn9AiO72MHlRiHEE/kvu+T/Ecnm3Oby6q0TKz1 JJWIeik1QTvVi3E6dJ906HUYVGWt497QoCHC0LwK7eSXAsKZ09Ya1rSKtNyd+Pdwku/q JwWw== X-Received: by 10.14.126.73 with SMTP id a49mr4899220eei.48.1376920353664; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.20.201] (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f49sm17614206eec.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5212225D.8000906@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:49:17 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo References: <5211226F.2000000@libertytrek.org> <201308182208.43780.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <521142A7.1020702@coolmail.se> <52114F82.5070608@gmail.com> <5211E5DE.2050901@coolmail.se> <0F75235D-4558-4BF8-ADF8-43A480014F4B@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <20130819115543.44ac32d5@digimed.co.uk> <52121F75.4060001@iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <52121F75.4060001@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 140cd1c8-6374-4f12-ab25-7920685b9ead X-Archives-Hash: 0c41d412a3489c55c3a7dbf91d630d32 On 19/08/2013 15:36, William Kenworthy wrote: > I still have not seen an adequate explanation as to why systemd isn't a > profile as its far more intrusive than a gnome/kde choice and they have > profiles. That way some bad choices like polluting systems with systemd > files because they are only small and insignificant might be avoided. I > have used the mask method but did waste some time on chasing down odd > errors due to missing file errors in the logs so I would rather not have > them on the system at all. There was an uber-thread on -dev over the last two months that covered most of these bases. I stopped paying attention about halfway through... but it's all there on gmane. The thread started with with a proposed sysvinit -> systemd migration script, and it quickly became obvious why profiles and USE flags look OK at first glance but rapidly becomes apparent that they aren't. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com