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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:36:50 +0200
From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
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On 19/08/2013 15:23, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-08-19 6:04 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's not that separate /usr is broken - it's not.
>>
>> The issue is a separate /usr without an initramfs. And the issue ONLY
>> occurs at early-boot time.
>
> And so, if this is the way it goes, this is the way it goes.
>
> As long as I can keep using eudev - even *if* it requires an initramfs
> for a separate /usr (as long as it doesn't require one if you don't have
> a separate /usr)...
>
> Can anyone answer *that* question please?
>
Honestly, what you want is a full-fledged udev fork from just before
systemd tainted it, and fully maintained to go in the direction we
understood "classic" udev to be going.
eudev and even mdev are a step in the right direction, but I believe
they don't have enough muscle behind them, i.e. they end up cherry
picking useful bits out of udev-subsumed-into-systemd.
udev needs the same quality of maintainership now in a fork that it used
to have. And it's probably only a matter of time before someone with
those resources gets fed up with the current scene and does exactly that.
For me, I'm not opposed to merging /usr. I'm not opposed to other people
using systemd, I am opposed to *me* using it.
For your other question, you don't need an initramfs if your /usr is not
split off and drivers for your fs on / and chipset are compiled in. That
will stay true for ages to come (until some joker starts shipping kernel
drivers in /var....)
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com