From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC5C1381F3 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61D4FE0BF7; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f52.google.com (mail-bk0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C25EE0AC2 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id e11so1359974bkh.11 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:31:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ABBioO4UDlGDM6Jypt5KmroMJuMqYFcF18/GSK02tgU=; b=KlHcKrkTvLS0r0Gu+vssYYEVXXCkrmSrjcp3HLgbjedr89k7EAsfhI+PjmscNFu9TP 7UmjF1mpQS9gtl2unpj3TVB4q/UjkelkehXnteqEYHCBZVJa/dyJYTREmpJPKLwCVGH6 oJpICOWR2GKE6n1Cb8I7Xzgr9zs4n92d04G4TqcXPGqZ46vHs4/M80eKDqLUNq6Nu5IV KsSBhn4f/ghntNoR/s8WRmcVywGsDl60tr7Uzn6j0+1EnSEjS1Z8f32N6vM4AYc5ZVRr 1/zVGXj67OJ9WMUfD36L0AObY3OhYEZxyp09cxeErDTG1EhZ/CJHzlZLMIe4/zkNN5g0 TX7g== X-Received: by 10.205.22.138 with SMTP id qw10mr782019bkb.29.1376904662618; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.20.201] (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jh13sm1487396bkb.13.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5211E513.4020704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:27:47 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo References: <520A5446.1050001@mail.ru> <520DA782.4050803@sporkbox.us> <520F14B2.9080500@sporkbox.us> <20130817083653.GA23823@gentoocompn.netbynet.ru> <87li40jf59.fsf@eder.homelinux.net> <521042BB.70601@sporkbox.us> <5210976D.5060307@sporkbox.us> <5210D733.4030008@coolmail.se> <8BC75A32-B9E7-468B-961C-F11CF9B6DE23@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8BC75A32-B9E7-468B-961C-F11CF9B6DE23@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a72cdd92-15a2-47cf-8ee3-2a3db495304d X-Archives-Hash: cf66812f6f5540a34c2147a7ac8718b4 On 19/08/2013 11:21, Stroller wrote: > > On 18 August 2013, at 15:16, pk wrote: >> ... >> 1. Most of the time spent when cold booting is spent in the BIOS/UEFI >> cycle (around 30 seconds), the time from grub display to login (I'm >> using "slim") is 5 seconds (max). > > Blimey! You must have a slow BIOS cycle. > > I mean, maybe my servers take that long (I'm not sure, I boot them annually and don't watch them rebooting) but I have a little eMachines nettop here - the first time I tried to enter BIOS, it look me several attempts, it boots past that so quick! > > I've now enabled the option to wait 5 seconds before loading the bootloader, but quickboot on this system is less than 2 seconds in BIOS cycle. > > (OTOH, going from grub to login in 5 seconds - that suggests to me that you're using an SSD and not a hard-drive). What pk says is quite normal in my experience. This laptop is a Dell Precision, from pressing enter on the grub screen to kdm showing on the screen is 3 seconds, another 4 seconds for KDE to appear and start responding to mouse clicks. >From power-on to the grub menu showing, that's about 30 seconds. The first 8 or so is a ... blank screen ... then I get the Dell logo, followed by another 20 seconds or so where is does $SOMETHING. Server hardware is even worse - the R[357]* series can easily take 4 MINUTES to get through all the various BIOS thingies. Bi-monthly maintenance reboots get scary, 4 minutes is a loooooooong time when you're flying blind on a critical machine that's physically on the other side of town :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com