From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1011381F3 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C021AE0D3D; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1702E0D23 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.177.140.125] (85-76-124-151-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.124.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 023BE33EC1B for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5208D632.8070808@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:33:54 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130809 Thunderbird/17.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev References: <51FA8CB6.60000@libertytrek.org> <51FAEEC6.9000006@iinet.net.au> <51FAF26C.2040107@gentoo.org> <20130802010100.GA31096@waltdnes.org> <51FB133F.3040409@gentoo.org> <51FB1DF5.8050802@gmail.com> <51FB2102.50102@gentoo.org> <5208C8E4.70905@gentoo.org> <5208CFDD.2080200@gentoo.org> <5208D24C.1060805@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <5208D24C.1060805@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: bf8ac5d4-40a8-45b1-b380-8f81b02b8199 X-Archives-Hash: f969d8bf07f43ffde88e86f0abf321a2 On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's >> how maintainership works. >> But trying to lie to people it's somehow solving something currently is >> annoying as 'ell and should be corrected where seen. > > It is solving the problem of *when* (not if - if the words I have read > from the systemd maintainers can be taken at face value) the systemd > maintainers decide to pull the plug on the ability to have a > systemd-less udev... > Then we will carry a minimal patchset on top of sys-fs/udev that will keep it working without systemd for long as it's sustainable. And at this point it's pointless to talk of forking yet, it should be done only when it's required. - Samuli