From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E141381F3 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 02:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FB89E09F9; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 02:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EF9AE09EC for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 02:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.169.143.54] (85-76-6-90-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.6.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE25933EB5F for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 02:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51FB133F.3040409@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 05:02:39 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130716 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev References: <51FA8CB6.60000@libertytrek.org> <51FAEEC6.9000006@iinet.net.au> <51FAF26C.2040107@gentoo.org> <20130802010100.GA31096@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20130802010100.GA31096@waltdnes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d21802aa-6c65-40ab-98c9-bcc9efc85f04 X-Archives-Hash: b59c4bb2f9e30b79d53885b74a7cd0dd On 02/08/13 04:01, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > >> nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. i've said >> it many times, and i'll say it again: >> >> the only real different is USE="rule-generator" and that's it >> >> and sys-fs/eudev is constantly out of date and haven't developed any >> features of their own > > What are the "new features"? What have Lennart/Kay broken recently? > First it was firmware loading in udev, which got them reamed out by > Linus. Then it was (un)predictable network interface names. Gentoo is > not Facebook http://www.geek.com/news/mark-zuckerberg-says-you-need-to-move-fast-and-break-things-922432/ > >> The key to the real innovation, says Zuckerberg, is to "move fast >> and break things." > Huh? USE="firmware-loader" is optional and enabled by default in sys-fs/udev Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a single valid bug filed about them. Stop spreading FUD. Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on.