From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D361381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9928DE0B4F; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f49.google.com (mail-ee0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F5FFE0ADB for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id d41so553739eek.8 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:41:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x28lOroUQCzrpL68HLA/rAHP7HT7HskNTKphovYFOvw=; b=eG2VDFTmfZzJTUUy0A41rLf8YnQuXyd4uZjXkLNQ2HYLKirGuMWiPXL1WUEVgHrxzB 8sdSOdD+xXQqJM+6rkhySnIds2yFJQXETC3ArNM9N8jrX7dPDnf44YF6Iwtyd5hotj3m m6P9zZ+mZmoOvBx82EqbgSgXUCW183OLdfn3LImIlmG60fPkbLc5Nkcy6zrcknuCkJNC qlLeIw+3kb9uIZij2muzWmBOY74QG/NVOhU7AzpIatcfsJG/dam2+ZemxEElPOyKq5i7 7FdkRHNM4sLChNWJVZQef+DgXrXka3suv1DbWysQaSeSxF968hRWru2qXW3k7vGmyNdf ZVYg== X-Received: by 10.14.175.9 with SMTP id y9mr16636714eel.90.1375299677964; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-210-102-70.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c3sm4903678eev.3.2013.07.31.12.41.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F967BE.4080704@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:38:38 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130709 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation References: <57299332.XkTIeZ2QOq@melforce> <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> <6349.1375221843@ccs.covici.com> <51F8F63E.9020705@libertytrek.org> <20130731132227.5e582ee7@digimed.co.uk> <51F9034E.7040204@libertytrek.org> <51F92CC0.2060504@libertytrek.org> <51F9480E.3080406@gmail.com> <51F952C3.7070903@gmail.com> <4C426CD4-518B-490A-BF5F-97286FF773E6@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C426CD4-518B-490A-BF5F-97286FF773E6@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 51751b58-4659-4eab-9051-d243905048cd X-Archives-Hash: cb4df8416833720e68750eb0d077dfe5 On 31/07/2013 20:54, Stroller wrote: > > On 31 July 2013, at 19:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote: >>> >>> On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> ... >>>> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging >>>> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show >>>> in ways they really should be keeping private. >>> >>> Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything. >> >> You are understanding it wrong. > > No. According to Canek, I'm not. > >> Only one of those sets of teeny weeny files can be used at a time, > > > Heck! Even according to yourself, in the same email, I'm not understanding it wrong! > > > I've asked you this before - would you stop wrongly telling people they're wrong, please? > > Would you please just stop and think "could it be me who is misunderstanding this?" > > Could you please just rephrase yourself "I think you may be mistaken". > > Whenever it is *you* who is mistaken, you are always assertively and authoritatively so. > > This makes it harder for people to question or challenge you, and it ensures those you misadvise will waste their time with greater determination. "Well, Alan knows what he's on about, and he said this definitely - there was no doubt in his statement". > > Not only that, it's just plain annoying to be told one is wrong when one is not. > > Stroller. > > Sure, I can do that. I read "that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything" different to what you intended. English can be very ambiguous. If we take "You are understanding it wrong." out of my mail is the rest OK? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com