From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6621381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8A9AE0AEA; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-f174.google.com (mail-ea0-f174.google.com [209.85.215.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBF40E0AE4 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f174.google.com with SMTP id z15so508525ead.19 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:11:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H+lHT/eYmPRBW1vkaKKYPoX8vSSU4hV0BzL/gjnpGOg=; b=j8dOd7bSIgF2sPdYinH9+E8FZ6Epfclpd2Z4i+i6Jb/pbMN3/5QodyB4q+xibFdBYf JePX3KmQTUuHx7DBD2Y2czSYKCanRZ6eMZUNjaHy10pH1ImSI4GYZl/HvYty50W1f/AN 0G4aLZOPM1b00V0REcwGJ7YB2xJuRd2zAo3iNoUtJKcoKIZz3aW9QcWgonGBqvvz4ax6 V9zfHs7dRFjF6cj/3b9/KSCcToyKKc617BsVV0v5RtIYe9jNh7VKuGn7DCZX+MICnJb2 okh5Zpbtinokz5ljo594e6VGCUkVP4j7+Zcbt8onyfmuRlu54MBFI9it3lJxAuz7RdgR CGBQ== X-Received: by 10.14.203.194 with SMTP id f42mr500283eeo.53.1375294306413; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-210-102-70.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.102.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v41sm4342348eep.10.2013.07.31.11.11.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F952C3.7070903@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:09:07 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130709 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation References: <57299332.XkTIeZ2QOq@melforce> <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> <6349.1375221843@ccs.covici.com> <51F8F63E.9020705@libertytrek.org> <20130731132227.5e582ee7@digimed.co.uk> <51F9034E.7040204@libertytrek.org> <51F92CC0.2060504@libertytrek.org> <51F9480E.3080406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8f257bce-020d-4bf2-be37-5f566b891b2f X-Archives-Hash: 40bddb55e25e8d8a1f1988b1b9f62648 On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote: > > On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> ... >> Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging >> about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show >> in ways they really should be keeping private. > > Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to /etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything. > > Stroller. > > You are understanding it wrong. The scene being worked towards is: ebuilds for services will install openrc scripts in /etc/init.d ebuilds for services will install unit files somewhere else. Only one of those sets of teeny weeny files can be used at a time, the set in user depends on the service manager. There's an idea floating around that openrc could use systemd unit files but it's still just an idea. If it becomes more than an idea, the files in /etc/init.d may or may not be dispensed with. Either way it doesn't matter. Unit files are unlikely to number more than 100 total, and are likely to be smaller than 1 fs allocation unit in size. bash's man page is considerably larger than all that all by itself. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com