From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A2E1381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 115DAE0A82; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.viabit.com (mail2.viabit.com [65.246.80.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09018E0969 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.29.6] (vpn1.metro-data.com [65.213.236.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.viabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c50sS2TM6z1hgb for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:46:52 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=orlitzky.com; s=mail2; t=1375289212; bh=z9pe7zqYQmUXsKlJvOnjpUwrDSflH0yU+DJQCCKK1tc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=hYB6S07voVboDoOfhi2cUB5pbDzqfoeXlXP4ymFGVZM7OiZZn7SD7MPAlY3thdvr2 /BlOE0ZJf1eY4/3neB5IYJCQQwZ0JW9kz9l5rYWPiXUAOy2GZsFAbbmPIkgvStfCDm nhzDP1uQTgaLnW/db9AvONlt0d3fzlPd5GzObxWs= Message-ID: <51F93F79.4050605@orlitzky.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:46:49 -0400 From: Michael Orlitzky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130727 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation References: <57299332.XkTIeZ2QOq@melforce> <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> <6349.1375221843@ccs.covici.com> <51F8F63E.9020705@libertytrek.org> <20130731132227.5e582ee7@digimed.co.uk> <51F9034E.7040204@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 3b5352a4-5f2a-41a4-b40a-0819284487e6 X-Archives-Hash: d26f4f1eced185a7b7c89071782a14cb On 07/31/2013 11:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > For the record, I now think it's a waste of time trying to stop the > installation of tiny files that basically do nothing, either in > /usr/lib/systemd/system or in /etc/init.d, but you have the option if > you so desire. The nice thing about the systemd service files is that they're distribution independent. That means the service file can go upstream, and the daemon's authors can make sure that it's correct. No more duplication of effort for each distro maintainer. Of course, you don't get that benefit unless you use systemd. But it's tempting, right? So there's been some talk about getting openrc, upstart, etc. to parse the systemd service files. That way, we'd get the benefit without having to run systemd. Should that dream ever become reality, you may one day get an unexpected surprise if you INSTALL_MASK the service files. In any case, masking them would be just one more make.conf setting you have to worry about. If it makes the situation more palatable, note that the service files come from the package authors, and not from the systemd people.