From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865851381F3 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CC08E09AE; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.viabit.com (mail2.viabit.com [65.246.80.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EF6BE0997 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.29.6] (vpn1.metro-data.com [65.213.236.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.viabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3c4ZGD2WRgz1hgQ for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:48:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=orlitzky.com; s=mail2; t=1375228100; bh=+Xy8Af6TtDZt6wY23jUQS8Y6DIdtOKAS0JLapR7jbqg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=PdL03BgRzsH9AZ/5Up3aNgps25nBmj8OTqKY/1wWrGSs03XYE2Og4AiB+d3GxCt1f 3DH57XuUfEUNbmALyDes4+vcbEiMAH+h1BhPJ6ToZJ7q40Z5/A8YZvZonTSEt6Env+ khH6D2ImTm+Fv8nHt6rXgvKpMBo2g+v6IH0Ogl0k= Message-ID: <51F850C3.6060301@orlitzky.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:48:19 -0400 From: Michael Orlitzky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130727 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is so AWESOME References: <51F80310.9070006@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <51F80310.9070006@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5510bb99-e59a-46a1-90fb-774cec506b17 X-Archives-Hash: c2e608bc0d9baf769a144e2d31891be7 On 07/30/2013 02:16 PM, hasufell wrote: > And we need MOAR devs > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > > so awesome! srsly! > > What many people don't seem to get is: you don't need to be a commit > monkey doing your 100+ commits per week. > Our minimum rate of commits is pretty low before you actually are forced > to retire. > > Better have a lot of devs each one focussing on a few packages than > having few devs working on the entire tree and messing up things randomly. > > It's not that much work, just some regular attention. You want to join! > (old rant) I would like to become a developer. I already proxy maintain a few packages, and have a few more in sunrise that I could take care of. I could also triage bugs in my spare time. But, there's no process to do so. I want to become a dev, what's my next step? There is none. Help out, and maybe someone will notice you? Ok, I'm on it. Been doing it for years, and I know several other people in the same situation. It doesn't work, and recruitment numbers are plummeting. There needs to be an explicit, documented process. And someone devoted full-time to mentoring new recruits. I can think of no better long-term investment of the foundation's money.