From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9DD1381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45EC3E0A04; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19DEEE09C0 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id e11so79704bkh.12 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:42:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wXZRzI76bmVTRm9Uw5fxLua23FSFTs8Q2l5y8TlSO74=; b=YO9PLhF4pNEa5CLOq+AcTEaXz2T7T0xEYsouQvl9TxKX9VGCbH/ynZvK+cITuWIqkJ 3BeSi3nv28pYzW8f75S4vHhoyjnCZhThEobIbJnTMaodZX/e+hgefND8JI8O8ZOD/HLx snosmMWkYXJd7F2rJ/w9Dp2PA3rRlKOAMQKZ0j/wv+hTW96c7gOB8Kp2Yn+iR5s/HEea 392cSFTpMNlMCKDJNZz7sCnXiNYxbLPh4YlCF1r0MGJfpzYM5bM7xYylwgX1tfoaRdDW 4Jg+yxvtPltJsFufo3Nuf0bZoD9t/nr7CLvxA188bksLZjwwtxwThtAL3QpAblghV9Nx kYmw== X-Received: by 10.204.188.134 with SMTP id da6mr5138213bkb.49.1374658943480; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.20.205] (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g5sm9473787bkh.17.2013.07.24.02.42.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51EFA0E9.3060803@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:39:53 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130709 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script References: <81cd8b64fd20f43855a535a449411a58@drakonix.fr> <51EDA7DB.90900@gmail.com> <20130724021751.GB1792@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <20130724100237.2a6c6cae@hactar.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20130724100237.2a6c6cae@hactar.digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8beec343-3549-424a-af35-82299ac29375 X-Archives-Hash: f13eb43fa895b10590aec92647a7eda2 On 24/07/2013 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:17:51 +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > >>> You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC >>> you already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light >>> daemon, can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to >>> many of the IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones >>> that don't happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging >>> about them. >> >> You might as well just use the existing IPC mechanisms too, > > Yes, lets have lots of IPC mechanisms instead of one daemon that handles > IPC for everything. While we're at it, let's get rid of syslog and add > file logging code to every program that needs it. cron and at seem a bit > of a waste of space too. you forgot that shared library nonsense. Every app should just bundle static copies of everything it needs and leave it up to the dev to deal with bugs and security issues -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com