From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB981381F3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C76BAE09DE; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BADA6E09B7 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.184.177.27] (85-76-183-116-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.183.116]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E86F33E982 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 07:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51EE2D85.20605@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:15:17 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130716 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch? References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <51EE181D.5080505@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e7f5048f-8167-4ae0-9500-9399224c7c98 X-Archives-Hash: 8cb2b4f478307fca044dc440fd71e249 On 23/07/13 09:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >>> This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind >>> ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally >>> intended. >> >> not possible, logind since systemd >= 205 requires systemd and won't >> work on openrc, upstart, and such >> as in, the idea of using logind outside of systemd is a dead end >> >> so keeping ConsoleKit in portage for long as it works for long as we >> need openrc for Linux based systems >> and when it no longer works, the contingency plan is to ship vendor >> based polkit files that possibly either restore 'plugdev' group or >> provide similar groups to ArchLinux like 'network', 'storage', 'power' >> to split up the old 'plugdev' > > Wouldn't it be better to switch to systemd instead? sure, I'm all for systemd but it's not the default yet... or rather, not tested enough to be the contigency plans. need to have contigency plans. :)