From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894251381F3 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A901E0AAE; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f48.google.com (mail-wg0-f48.google.com [74.125.82.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A956E0AA9 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id f11so6456452wgh.27 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:47:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qivNxFCeBKIHFzQBXeICa3ot0S1ziUDsvUqyCgVTplc=; b=mgyACC6Rtv8749ulcx7XBGy/PhAiPqRKiEPxpPMY23qnO/17vlgD8YjnQkVkDLrro9 eNQF500WyoBzFleRdLCSpneyoHfAUc2/PfldalcX/0CN504sN657vOupqljwyPiRXZ8P D1davJ/0nFZCQwLt1skmLZtaQckTXLGxaUDz7XmtIJ/77yWKt3Ju7lbj6MRvKydOcOYG q1blyKhds/umTBDtt7gDT/3J3lIfob8zKLX74C5fU5X7Gri6qoofMA4h6NnQgQj8WNof zWWN+wcaQkQ1oueoD4gy2i1a6pKMOOWQsKtjoee5iSoCBNdvRR1g0xVJR0e0N3I/envh 784g== X-Received: by 10.194.174.4 with SMTP id bo4mr21032998wjc.40.1374529645969; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (196-210-127-150.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.127.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nb12sm1736969wic.7.2013.07.22.14.47.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51EDA7DB.90900@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 23:44:59 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130709 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script References: <81cd8b64fd20f43855a535a449411a58@drakonix.fr> In-Reply-To: <81cd8b64fd20f43855a535a449411a58@drakonix.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 80a635ce-136d-4465-a44b-090b269269ac X-Archives-Hash: 56a3c035f28e7919d3dce16aadc81ad9 On 22/07/2013 23:35, FredL wrote: >> >> Do you perhaps have NetworkManager or wicd installed? >> >> >> no, none of them, it is a very basic install, with only the minimum >> packages installed . I have checked at the init script and find a line >> in the depend section saying : >> >> after lo lo0 dbus >> >> but dbus is not yet installed, can this be the cause of my problem? > > so I have just installed dbus and add it to default runlevel and my > net.* script are loaded correctly setting my static config, so every > thing is fine now. > > But why do we need dbus in a very minimalistic system? I was thinking > that it would be helpful in a full desktop environnement for > automagically mounting device and things like that... dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it. dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have. Why do you need or want a message bus? You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC you already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light daemon, can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to many of the IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones that don't happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging about them. That desktop systems are the main user of dbus at this point in time doesn't change one bit what dbus is designed to do and it's usefulness. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com