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[65.0.124.39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c65sm3996026yhk.5.2013.05.26.05.10.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 May 2013 05:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51A1FBCD.6020107@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 07:10:53 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers and KDE problem References: <51A1D201.8040008@gmail.com> <51A1D8BF.6000701@gmail.com> <51A1DB08.4090604@gmail.com> <51A1E65D.3070701@gmail.com> <51A1EC1B.20405@gmail.com> <51A1F29E.9020807@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51A1F29E.9020807@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 63a67b27-2e68-4e56-a656-31dc436c20f0 X-Archives-Hash: b8b08c1b65730bd8f16cf58a1f7ef5c5 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 26/05/2013 13:03, Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 26/05/2013 11:51, Dale wrote: >>> >>>> What package provides the kicker thingy? I think in KDE3 it was called >>>> kicker but it appears to have changed to something else. Is that >>>> krunner that has it now? >>> Maybe it's time you used the "thingy" suffix a little less and the real >>> names of things a little more :-) >>> >>> What thing are you asking about? The panel that is usually at the bottom >>> and holds the plasma widgets? Or the thin popup you get with Alt-F2? >>> >>> The panel is called plasma-desktop and comes from kde-base/plasma-workspace >>> The popup is krunner and comes from kde-base/krunner >>> >>> I doubt very much it's a real bug as such in either KDE app (although >>> the fix might go in there). It looks much more to me like a side-effect >>> of IO blocking - two or more apps are trying to get something done and >>> unexpectedly are not getting answers, so they hang around waiting in the >>> doorway and get get in the way of everything else. And just for fun, >>> video drivers are also trying to get in on the act as they have to deal >>> with mouse pointer repaints... >>> >>> Debugging this one is going to be fun (for peculiar definitions of fun) >>> >>> >> The thingy is the thing at the bottom where I can switch desktops, click >> the K menu and where my clock is. I think it was called Kicker in >> KDE3. KDE4 seems to have changed it but not sure what the new name is. > It's a plasma widget called a panel, the only useful thing it does is to > be a container for other widgets that do useful stuff. > > The panel is started by plasma-desktop as one of the standard widgets it > manages. The idea is to give you stuff on the screen that looks more or > less like a familiar desktop. Plasma can do other things and give you > completely different layouts; like for instance not giving you a panel > at all. This would be useful on a phone with small screen > > The whole thing is heavily event based and has to react to a bucket load > of system events being generated such as what the mouse is doing. > There's a fantastic number of ways this could go wrong, some might be > plasma's fault, some might be faults that happen to plasma I'll try to remember to call it a panel thingy then. ROFL >> I hope they fix this thing soon. If they remove the driver from the >> tree, I'm in a bit of a pickle. > No, you won't be. You have the ebuild right now, copy it to your overlay > and "remove" becomes something that will not happen > > > Last time I did that, it didn't work out well. Actually, it just plain didn't work. May as well tell it like it is. ;-) I'll save a copy just in case. Cross that bridge when I get there I guess. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!