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[196.210.126.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hl6sm10400976wib.2.2013.05.26.04.32.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 May 2013 04:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51A1F29E.9020807@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 13:31:42 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130518 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers and KDE problem References: <51A1D201.8040008@gmail.com> <51A1D8BF.6000701@gmail.com> <51A1DB08.4090604@gmail.com> <51A1E65D.3070701@gmail.com> <51A1EC1B.20405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51A1EC1B.20405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: cbd53429-e7e1-40e3-b409-d2197cb15ed8 X-Archives-Hash: 2699aa51fcf973bba3104f262d59e1c3 On 26/05/2013 13:03, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 26/05/2013 11:51, Dale wrote: >> >>> What package provides the kicker thingy? I think in KDE3 it was called >>> kicker but it appears to have changed to something else. Is that >>> krunner that has it now? >> Maybe it's time you used the "thingy" suffix a little less and the real >> names of things a little more :-) >> >> What thing are you asking about? The panel that is usually at the bottom >> and holds the plasma widgets? Or the thin popup you get with Alt-F2? >> >> The panel is called plasma-desktop and comes from kde-base/plasma-workspace >> The popup is krunner and comes from kde-base/krunner >> >> I doubt very much it's a real bug as such in either KDE app (although >> the fix might go in there). It looks much more to me like a side-effect >> of IO blocking - two or more apps are trying to get something done and >> unexpectedly are not getting answers, so they hang around waiting in the >> doorway and get get in the way of everything else. And just for fun, >> video drivers are also trying to get in on the act as they have to deal >> with mouse pointer repaints... >> >> Debugging this one is going to be fun (for peculiar definitions of fun) >> >> > > The thingy is the thing at the bottom where I can switch desktops, click > the K menu and where my clock is. I think it was called Kicker in > KDE3. KDE4 seems to have changed it but not sure what the new name is. It's a plasma widget called a panel, the only useful thing it does is to be a container for other widgets that do useful stuff. The panel is started by plasma-desktop as one of the standard widgets it manages. The idea is to give you stuff on the screen that looks more or less like a familiar desktop. Plasma can do other things and give you completely different layouts; like for instance not giving you a panel at all. This would be useful on a phone with small screen The whole thing is heavily event based and has to react to a bucket load of system events being generated such as what the mouse is doing. There's a fantastic number of ways this could go wrong, some might be plasma's fault, some might be faults that happen to plasma > > I hope they fix this thing soon. If they remove the driver from the > tree, I'm in a bit of a pickle. No, you won't be. You have the ebuild right now, copy it to your overlay and "remove" becomes something that will not happen -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com