[gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Thomas Mueller]

Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition through many possible categories.

I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon as pkgng.

Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?

One can do
ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.

I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.

Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Michael Hampicke]

Am 08.05.2013 13:05, schrieb Thomas Mueller:
> Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition through many possible categories.
> 
> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon as pkgng.
> 
> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?
> 
> One can do
> ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.
> 
> I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.

What are you trying to accomplish? I mean, why do you need to navigate
around /var/db/pkg? I'm pretty sure there's a better alternative for
your needs.

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Randolph Maaßen]

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2013/5/8 Michael Hampicke <mh@hadt.biz>

> Am 08.05.2013 13:05, schrieb Thomas Mueller:
> > Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the
> nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition
> through many possible categories.
> >
> > I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and
> FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon
> as pkgng.
> >
> > Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?
>  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?
> >
> > One can do
> > ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.
> >
> > I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.
>  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.
>
> What are you trying to accomplish? I mean, why do you need to navigate
> around /var/db/pkg? I'm pretty sure there's a better alternative for
> your needs.
>
>
>
Have a look at eix or equery, just match them for your needs

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 8 May 2013 04:05:38 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:

> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and
> FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure
> nkwon as pkgng.
> 
> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?
> Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?

No, because there are packages with the same name but in different
categories. Just use eix or qlist to determine the correct category and
go from there.


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[gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Thomas Mueller]

Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition through many possible categories.

I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon as pkgng.

Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?

One can do
ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.

I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.

Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[staticsafe]

On 5/9/2013 22:59, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition through many possible categories.
> 
> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon as pkgng.
> 
> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?
> 
> One can do
> ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.
> 
> I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 

Use equery?

$ man equery
Equery is a collection of modules for querying the state of Gentoo
packages, files and USE flags.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Marc Joliet]

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Am Fri, 10 May 2013 02:59:55 +0000 (UTC)
schrieb "Thomas Mueller" <mueller6726@bellsouth.net>:

> Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition through many possible categories.
> 
> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon as pkgng.
> 
> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?
> 
> One can do
> ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.
> 
> I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.
> 
> Tom

Um... this is the exact same message you posted on the 8th of May and to which
you got three replies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Dale]

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Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Fri, 10 May 2013 02:59:55 +0000 (UTC)
> schrieb "Thomas Mueller" <mueller6726@bellsouth.net>:
>
>> Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries
the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition
through many possible categories.
>>
>> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc
and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure
nkwon as pkgng.
>>
>> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in
Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?
>>
>> One can do
>> ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.
>>
>> I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older
computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel
failed to boot.
>>
>> Tom
>
> Um... this is the exact same message you posted on the 8th of May and
to which
> you got three replies.
>


I'm glad you posted this.  I thought maybe I had hit a time warp or
something.  Since he posted it twice, I guess he still doesn't like it.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:59:55 +0000 (UTC), Thomas Mueller wrote:

I'm not sure why I'm posting this as you don't appear to bother with
reading replies - or do you expect us to CC them to you personally?

> Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries
> the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing
> expedition through many possible categories.

You are using the wrong tool for the job. This is not how you find a
package in portage, you don't access the database directly. Portage
already provides tools for finding packages, such as the --search option
to emerge or eix (which is faster and more comprehensive).

> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and
> FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure
> nkwon as pkgng.

So they admit your suggested layout is not the best too?
> 
> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?
> Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?

You have already been told why this is not possible.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Marc Joliet]

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Am Fri, 10 May 2013 03:15:25 -0500
schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:

[...]
> I'm glad you posted this.  I thought maybe I had hit a time warp or
> something.  Since he posted it twice, I guess he still doesn't like it.  :/
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

Hey now, let's give him a chance :) . He's trying something new and is
attempting to get used to it and understand it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 10.05.2013 04:59, schrieb Thomas Mueller:
> Having package data in /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> carries the nuisance factor that finding a package involves a fishing expedition through many possible categories.
>
> I am spoiled by having /var/db/pkg/<package-name> in NetBSD pkgsrc and FreeBSD ports, though FreeBSD is wsitching to a different structure nkwon as pkgng.
>
> Is there any way to configure so as to avoid this annoyance in Gentoo?  Like maybe making /var/db/pkg/<package-name>?
>
> One can do
> ls /var/db/pkg/*/<package-name> but this is still an annoyance.
>
> I have some limited experience with Gentoo Linux on my older computer.  Compiling the kernel took 130 minutes, and then the kernel failed to boot.
>
> Tom
>
>
> .
>
and how do you deal with the problem of several packages having the same
name?

Or.. you don't look at that stuff, besides some cases of severe damage
control, you never have to go there?

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Mark David Dumlao]

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Marc Joliet <marcec@gmx.de> wrote:
> Am Fri, 10 May 2013 03:15:25 -0500
> schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>
> [...]
>> I'm glad you posted this.  I thought maybe I had hit a time warp or
>> something.  Since he posted it twice, I guess he still doesn't like it.  :/
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>
> Hey now, let's give him a chance :) . He's trying something new and is
> attempting to get used to it and understand it.
>

Trying something new? On the gentoo mailing list? He's a witch, I say,
burn him! ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying structure of /var/db/pkg/<category>/<package-name> database

[Dale]

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Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Fri, 10 May 2013 03:15:25 -0500
> schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>
> [...]
>> I'm glad you posted this.  I thought maybe I had hit a time warp or
>> something.  Since he posted it twice, I guess he still doesn't like
it.  :/
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>
> Hey now, let's give him a chance :) . He's trying something new and is
> attempting to get used to it and understand it.
>


Given how this list has put up with me this long, I certainly do the
same for someone else.  lol  I still don't think he likes having to type
all that stuff in tho.  Honestly, me either.

I hope he knows about tab completion.  If he didn't, he should now. 
;-)  If my tab key breaks, I'm getting another keyboard, SOON.

Dale

:-)  :-)

P.S.  Y'all be careful talking about putting up with me.  :-)

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